RegisterHomeNewsForumsArticlesDownloadsSearchContact usChat
Already a member? Sign in.
SpeedUpMyPC


Reply
[ Home / Forums / SKD's Corner ]  
Fooling people wirh benchmark....Guru3D  
Old June 11th, 2009, 07:36 AM   #1
Golden Member

Posts: 558
CPU: AMD 955 3.7 with CM212
GPU: ATI HD 5770 975/1400
M/B: Asus M3A78-T /3
RAM: 4GB 1066MHz
PSU: 650W coolermaster
Send a message via Yahoo to saikamaldoss
I have always wondered why guru3d always get better FPS with Nvidia cards... when we test... ATI 4890 will beat GTX275...

but when Guru3D test ATI vs Nvidia... it becomes Curu3D results...

4890 will get beaten by 1 FPS or .55 at times.. by 275..

hmmm... and always they fool new bee showing AA performance.. and most of the people don't know what Real AA trick nvidia uses...

when Nvidia sponsor a game.. they make sure the 8xQ and 16xQ is added to fooling people... and unfortunately most of them fall for it.. very bad



if you test 8800GTS vs 4850.. @ 4x.. 8800GTS will win
if you test 8800GTS vs 4850.. @ 8x.. 8800GTS will win
if you test 8800GTS vs 4850.. @ 8xQ.. 4850 will win

if you select 8xQ for 8800GTS and select 8x on 4850, 4850 wins.. in our test we got 18FPS with 8xQ @ 128x720 and on ATI 4850 we got 21,22 FPS with the same 8xMSAA..

I dont know when people are going to open their eye...

Its good that people support a brand.. but it should be because they are good.. not because you own their product...


Nvidia Trick

Version (1.00)

DeviceGroupID 'NVIDIA'
{
VendorID = 4318 // NVidia
Devices
{
MinID = 0x0000
MaxID = 0xFFFF
}
}

FSAAProfile 'CSAA'
{
DeviceGroup = NVIDIA
Mode
{
Samples = 4
Quality = 8
Desc '8x'
}
Mode
{
Samples = 8
Quality = 8
Desc '8xQ'
}
Mode
{
Samples = 4
Quality = 16
Desc '16x'
}
Mode
{
Samples = 8
Quality = 16
Desc '16xQ'
}
}

Samples = is MSAA Sample which is the real AA
Quality = is CSAA which is custom AA by Nvidia (like CFAA in ATI)

Last edited by saikamaldoss; June 12th, 2009 at 09:48 AM..
saikamaldoss is offline  
  
Reply With Quote
Old June 11th, 2009, 02:46 PM   #2
Newbie

Posts: 13
CPU: Intel Q6600
GPU: ATI SAPPHIRE 4870 1GB
M/B: DFI LP-DK X48 T2RS
RAM: MUSHKIN RED LINE 2X2GB
PSU: 750W
I know what are you are talking about!!! I use your tweaks for crisis and grid,performance difference is obvious.I always choose ATI because somehow they always win in brute power while NVidia is sneaky with their drivers and fine tunings like you posted.
kaZoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 12th, 2009, 09:40 AM   #3
Golden Member

Posts: 558
CPU: AMD 955 3.7 with CM212
GPU: ATI HD 5770 975/1400
M/B: Asus M3A78-T /3
RAM: 4GB 1066MHz
PSU: 650W coolermaster
Send a message via Yahoo to saikamaldoss
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaZoo View Post
I know what are you are talking about!!! I use your tweaks for crisis and grid,performance difference is obvious.I always choose ATI because somehow they always win in brute power while NVidia is sneaky with their drivers and fine tunings like you posted.
He he that's right

i started it because i want more people to know about it and choose a better card and the same file will work for warhead too

i don't understand why guru3D always posting fake benchmarks to cheat people.. GEE

the sad part is all Nvidia Logo games do the same... even farcry.. i found the file but cant edit it its a DLL

Last edited by saikamaldoss; June 12th, 2009 at 09:50 AM..
saikamaldoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 13th, 2009, 02:01 AM   #4
Apple Specialist
 

Posts: 2,634
CPU: Intel Core i5 3.1GHz
GPU: AMD Radeon 6970M 1GB
M/B: Apple iMac12.2
RAM: 4GB DDR3-1333 SODIMM
PSU: Apple 400w FlatCard
Nvidia. Just the name inspires cheating.
__________________
Think Different.

Windows. Life without walls.
Mac. Life without problems.
IModIntel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 13th, 2009, 10:32 PM   #5
Golden Member

Posts: 558
CPU: AMD 955 3.7 with CM212
GPU: ATI HD 5770 975/1400
M/B: Asus M3A78-T /3
RAM: 4GB 1066MHz
PSU: 650W coolermaster
Send a message via Yahoo to saikamaldoss
Quote:
Originally Posted by IModIntel View Post
Nvidia. Just the name inspires cheating.
Nvidia meant to be cheated lol..
saikamaldoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2009, 07:21 AM   #6
One issue candidate
 

Posts: 2,706
CPU: C2Q 9400 2.66 GHz
GPU: Gigabyte 4870 512MB
M/B: Gigabyte X48 DS5
RAM: 2x2GB DDRII OCZ
PSU: Chiftec 550W
Quote:
Originally Posted by saikamaldoss View Post
i don't understand why guru3D always posting fake benchmarks to cheat people.. GEE
Isn't it obvious lol They like to trick people into buying their overpriced crap.

Anyway, good info, bud. I never knew they do that shit. Luckily, I never owned an Nvidia card, either so no harm has been done lol
__________________
... what?
mkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2009, 09:42 PM   #7
Golden Member

Posts: 558
CPU: AMD 955 3.7 with CM212
GPU: ATI HD 5770 975/1400
M/B: Asus M3A78-T /3
RAM: 4GB 1066MHz
PSU: 650W coolermaster
Send a message via Yahoo to saikamaldoss
Quote:
Originally Posted by mkey View Post
Isn't it obvious lol They like to trick people into buying their overpriced crap.

Anyway, good info, bud. I never knew they do that shit. Luckily, I never owned an Nvidia card, either so no harm has been done lol
THAT'S GOOD THAT U R ON THE RIGHT SIDE
saikamaldoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2009, 06:35 AM   #8
One issue candidate
 

Posts: 2,706
CPU: C2Q 9400 2.66 GHz
GPU: Gigabyte 4870 512MB
M/B: Gigabyte X48 DS5
RAM: 2x2GB DDRII OCZ
PSU: Chiftec 550W
Quote:
Originally Posted by saikamaldoss View Post
THAT'S GOOD THAT U R ON THE RIGHT SIDE
I could say "I knew they a are fucked company, so I never wanted to use their products", but the fact of the mater is Nvidia cards are just overpriced. I mean, I could enjoy gaming more on a GTX285, but a few more FPS for double the price of an 4870? Come on! And if ATI made better drivers, the difference would be even smaller.
__________________
... what?
mkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 17th, 2009, 07:25 AM   #9
Golden Member

Posts: 558
CPU: AMD 955 3.7 with CM212
GPU: ATI HD 5770 975/1400
M/B: Asus M3A78-T /3
RAM: 4GB 1066MHz
PSU: 650W coolermaster
Send a message via Yahoo to saikamaldoss
Quote:
Originally Posted by mkey View Post
I could say "I knew they a are fucked company, so I never wanted to use their products", but the fact of the mater is Nvidia cards are just overpriced. I mean, I could enjoy gaming more on a GTX285, but a few more FPS for double the price of an 4870? Come on! And if ATI made better drivers, the difference would be even smaller.
ya that's very true.. ATI needs to improve Drivers and give more options to users when it comes to tewaking
saikamaldoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2009, 08:15 AM   #10
Site Staff

Posts: 16,459
CPU: Intel Core i7-965
GPU: GeForce GTX 560 Ti
M/B: Intel DX58SO
RAM: 6GB of A-DATA
PSU: X-Spice 630w
I don’t think it’s fair to just slam Guru3D for the lack of objectivity. Some of the top review sites are no good either and some of them are even worse.

But its AMD’s fault, they choose sites and reviewers. Instead of supporting proper sites *erm*, they support biased sites. If you don't like their policy, write an email to their PR managers and tell them what you think.

For your information, AMD and their partners are heavily supporting Guru3D. That’s why they have like 50 reviews of Radeon 4800 series. AMD is using Nvidia's reviewers by default and some of them are loyal to Nvidia. Like Guru3D, they have close relations with 3DFX Nvidia for years now.

It's all about good business. That's why Nvidia feel so free to rebrand, cheat, lame around, etc.. without fear of criticism.

Links:
* Email this Page
* AMD PR Media Contact

Last edited by Regeneration; June 18th, 2009 at 09:02 AM..
Regeneration is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DirectCompute & OpenCL Benchmark Pat Graphic Cards 262 February 27th, 2012 12:20 PM
Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X 2 Benchmark Regeneration News 12 December 6th, 2010 10:03 AM
Guru3D Accused of Stealing Text and Images Regeneration News 27 July 20th, 2010 12:39 PM
The End of the World Regeneration Politics 46 July 28th, 2007 02:56 PM






Copyright © NGOHQ.com - All rights reserved
Reproduction in whole or in part in any form or medium
without written permission of the site's owners is prohibited.
Powered by vBulletin from vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO

Contact Us - Archive - ATI Drivers - Nvidia Drivers - Disclaimer - Top