Tool for ATI cards instead of CCC.....

saikamaldoss · March 14th, 2009, 03:11 PM

Tired of asking people for a tool for ATI cards instead of CCC.....

Finally i am working on one and want input from users....

DOOMJESUS · March 14th, 2009, 04:46 PM

what does the BOOST button do?

also, has anyone recommended ray adam's ati tray tools to you?
it is indepth, in development and even the betas are stable.

i started using it because i hate the dotnet framework but i needed a little more control than the control panel offers.
Ray's ATT has been indispensable to me for years but i find myself doing less tweaking as the cards get more powerful...

Aerowinder · March 14th, 2009, 05:12 PM

I think it's great that you would take your time to make a tool like this; ATI CCC has always been a huge headache. I've actually had it cause crashes. It's ugly and unstable. I was never able to understand why anyone would use this abomination when slick 3rd party tools exist.

Having done some programming myself (and now scripting), I realize you are probably doing this because it's fun to you, and it's also a challenge. But I have to ask you - what will your tool be able to do that ATI Tray Tools can't? I'm merely inquiring as to why you would unload your creativity on something that has already been done? I realize that the last two statements appear to be loaded with negativity - I assure you I do not mean them to be interpreted that way.

dammit45 · March 14th, 2009, 08:40 PM

when will this be released? and it looks pretty nice, good job.

saikamaldoss · March 14th, 2009, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerowinder

I think it's great that you would take your time to make a tool like this; ATI CCC has always been a huge headache. I've actually had it cause crashes. It's ugly and unstable. I was never able to understand why anyone would use this abomination when slick 3rd party tools exist.

Having done some programming myself (and now scripting), I realize you are probably doing this because it's fun to you, and it's also a challenge. But I have to ask you - what will your tool be able to do that ATI Tray Tools can't? I'm merely inquiring as to why you would unload your creativity on something that has already been done? I realize that the last two statements appear to be loaded with negativity - I assure you I do not mean them to be interpreted that way.

the main aim is to run it without a driver, so any one can use lite it even on x64 and is simple to use

I will try to add overclocking, temp and volt monitor......... like in EVGA precession tool..... but as i said.. will TRY

saikamaldoss · March 14th, 2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOMJESUS

what does the BOOST button do?

also, has anyone recommended ray adam's ati tray tools to you?
it is indepth, in development and even the betas are stable.

First thing is that i am using x64 and i dont like disabling Driver re-enforcement and i dont like apps running heavy... but ATT is one good tool. but not simple to use...

my tool will not have much.. just a tool to get all controls without CCC and will have the boost option to increase DX10 performance

Dwarden · March 16th, 2009, 10:39 AM

i would suggest to not bother with overclocking/temp/monitor atm
(leave that to e.g. RivaTuner which works with 99% cards contrary to other tools)
no point to clutter simple tool (unless you made it modular)
concentrate ont he tool main purpose

tho why not just use Ati Tray Tools
by adding new database profile for features You want to set (missing from actual ATT databases) ?
look at ATI Tray Tools\Database\*.dtb files

e.g. CrossFire one:

Code:

;Value Number=Registry Value Name, Description, 
; Type (0=String, 1=DWORD), Control Type (0=CheckBox, 1=Edit Control),
; Settings Path (0=D3D,1=OGL,2=Vista 3D), Def Value (empty unknown)

[main]
Description=Advanced CrossFire Tweaks
[Part0]
Name=Tweaks
Value0=DisableDonglelessMVPU,Disable Dongleless MVPU,0,0,2,
Value1=MVPULimitVisibleMemory,MVPULimitVisibleMemory,0,0,2,
Value2=MVPUMemoryDowngrade,MVPUMemoryDowngrade,0,0,2,
Value3=MVPUSkipSlaveCopy,MVPUSkipSlaveCopy,0,0,2,
Value4=MVPUVisualConfirm,Visual Confirm of MVPU present,0,0,2,
Value5=MVPUMode,MVPUMode (1-AFR/2-Split/3-ChessBox/4-?),0,1,2,
Value6=MVPUDualRenderAFR,MVPUDualRenderAFR,0,0,2,
Value7=MVPUCompatibleAFR,MVPUCompatibleAFR,0,0,2,
Value8=MVPUUseProfilesWithCompatAFR,MVPUUseProfilesWithCompatAFR,0,0,2,
Value9=MVPUAllowCompatibleAFR,MVPUAllowCompatibleAFR,0,0,2,
Value10=MVPUForceZsyncEnable,MVPUForceZsyncEnable,0,0,2,
Value11=MVPUDisableProfile,MVPUDisableProfile,0,0,2,
Value12=MVPUEnableHCF,MVPUEnableHCF,0,0,2,
Value13=MVPUAFRFlipQueueSize,MVPUAFRFlipQueueSize,0,0,2,
Value14=MVPUAFRFlipQueueSizeVsync,MVPUAFRFlipQueueSizeVsync,0,0,2,
Value15=MVPUAFRSkip,MVPUAFRSkip,0,0,2,
Value16=MVPUAFRSkipFrameRate,MVPUAFRSkipFrameRate,0,1,2,
Value17=MVPUForceHybridCF,MVPUForceHybridCF,0,0,2,

these settings can be then easily ticked on/off in Tweaks > Advanced Tweaks > each db is standalone drop down menu

or other way around ...
if you want still release your own tool is there chance for list of the changed registry entries and some details why ?

PrEzi · March 16th, 2009, 06:13 PM

saikamal : I think that this is actually a good idea IF you are able to force your tweaks inside of the drivers.
Also a good idea is to make it as modular as it is possible (like Dwarden suggested) - by doing it that way you could even use some kind of plugin language. Also if it's modular - then it would be easly 'translatable' in the future (yep - I'm thinking big if it catches some audiend ;-) )

saikamaldoss · March 16th, 2009, 11:40 PM

hmmm.. lets see... but many heads are better than one head..

so guys good with programing are welcome... i am in need of people who can creating hooker or wrapper for ATI driver......

i do have help... but my friend is busy with this office project

dammit45 · March 17th, 2009, 12:45 AM

NO! dont use ati tray tools,

it sucks, in my opinion...

Ive NEVER ran ati tray tools successfully

it always crashed my display drivers

never once has ati tray tools not sucked for me :P