IModIntel

So what do you think about these two companies? Tell us about it!

For me:

AMD:
-I admire them, 'cause I don't know how they survive
-Make the most high quality chips and packaging
-Good marketing techniques
-Best performance-price ratio
-Mobile platforms could be more available

Intel:
-I admire their products, but certainly not the company
-Make the highest performance chips
-Really shit monopolistic grab on the market
-Often has a really bad price-performance ratio (for example, an Athlon x2 6000+ is being sold for 109$ CAD, the Intel E4700, 169$. The 6000+ will severely outclass it in every test. Go figure)
-Best mobile platforms

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Zamoldac

I'm a big AMD fan but lately they kinda ...stayed behind their cpu's where good and even this year (at least @ the begining ) they kept a good price/performance ratio, but now intel tottaly own AMD even in the low budget i mean my current cpu costs like ~150$ and i can get 4.0 ghz stable oc on it quite easy so that's a really valuable product i really hope that AMD will get back on the throne just like ATI kinda did.

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Regeneration

I’d pick Intel since their processors are faster and offer a lot of overclocking headroom. I bought E2140 for my HTPC for like $80 bucks and overclocked it to 3.2 GHz! It is faster then my overclocked Q6600 in some games. My overclocking experience with AMD was poor (Like 300 MHZ in the best case). When it comes to performance and price, Intel’s current product-line beat AMD’s in almost every segment on the field.

Here is a list of some of my overclocking experience in the last years:
* 100 MHz on AMD Athlon 2800+
* 300 MHz on AMD Athlon 3500+
* 200 MHz on AMD Athlon X2 4200+
* 1000 MHz on Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
* 1600 MHz on Intel Core 2 Duo E2140
* 1000 MHz on Intel Celeron D 336

Good marketing techniques? AMD has no marketing techniques since they don’t have marketing at all. For example: Almost every PC game has Nvidia’s TWIMTBP sticker on it. Intel is a monopoly because they have the best marketing department! They make deals with governments and many partners. Even when AMD had good products (939), they screwed it by announcing its EOL too early. They screwed up again with Phenom and instead of renaming it, they came up with B3 revision which was too late.

Nvidia and Intel are mean because this is the way to compete in such business. You shouldn't blame others for AMD mistakes. I’m using Intel processors not because Intel is forcing me to, but because their products are more attractive to me as a consumer. If AMD wants to survive, they will have to rename the Phenom brand and work hard on improving the new brand name. I gave up on AMD because I got sick and tired of the socket changes (Socket A, 939, AM2, AM2+, AM2++, AM3).

Unixlord

Well that's not completely accurate nor fair. AM2+ works on AM2 because it's DDR2 memory controller works and it falls back to HT1, the only separating 939,AM2 and AM3 is the on die memory controller. Hypertransport is really not much of a bottleneck. Folks have installed a phenom 9850 on an M2N32 and the 3Dmark score was incredibly close to that of an AM2+ board.

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Regeneration

There are many AM2 motherboards lacking AM2+ support.

Unixlord

Un-blamable on AMD if a manufacturer chooses not to support it.

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Regeneration

AMD should put this in mind when they come up with new sockets all the time. AMD can solve it by working closer with their partners, like they should do with game developers. I think AMD has a lot of potencial, but they have too many idiots inside the company. There aren't bad soldiers, there are bad commanders. If people are messing up and nothing is being done - they deserve to lose.

blindartist

Ive been an AMD supporter for quite some time, but lately their cpu's just dont impress me, sad to say their not even the best bang for the buck, you can get intel cpu's that will rock anything amd's got for less then most phenoms (i also wish they'd change that name) anyways, i would love to see amd rise back to power but right now intel is a better deal, amd should have scrapped the phnom after its initial lauch was a failure and put its R&D bucks into a new processor instead of trying to fix a dead-end cpu

IModIntel

I don't know, but here in Canada (or at least the shop I go to) AMD still represents the better deal. I couldn't make that a general statement, however.

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bigal

I really like the intel processors, because of the low amount of heat that it produces and performance, but they are very expensive for the specifications that they have.