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Old March 21st, 2007, 06:49 AM   #1
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Unhappy Help. PC doesnt start after cpu change

- AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Clawhammer
- Motherboard: shuttle fn85 (sn85g4v3)
- powersupply: shuttle 240w
- OS: Windows XP
- video card: sapphire x1950 pro agp

i was with a 3000+ processor with no trouble. i have bought an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Clawhammer but when i put it into socket, my barebone doesnt show any video signal. motherboard and powersupply start but with no video signal.
if i put 3000+ into again, everything its ok.

i have the latest bios version
that processor is supported by motherboard
http://global.shuttle.com/Support/Su...em=SN85G4%20V3
theres no beeps

i have, reset cmos, choose multiplier before, change ram, change video card but problem persists

can u help me? thx
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Old March 21st, 2007, 07:49 AM   #2
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look here: http://global.shuttle.com/Support/Su...20(FN85%20V2.5seems like the CPU you try to use is not supported by the mobo
sorry mate ...
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:06 AM   #3
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look here: http://global.shuttle.com/Support/Su...20(FN85%20V2.5seems like the CPU you try to use is not supported by the mobo
sorry mate ...

OUCH........ that must sux
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:12 AM   #4
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- AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Clawhammer
- Motherboard: shuttle fn85 (sn85g4v3)
- powersupply: shuttle 240w
- OS: Windows XP
- video card: sapphire x1950 pro agp

i was with a 3000+ processor with no trouble. i have bought an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Clawhammer but when i put it into socket, my barebone doesnt show any video signal. motherboard and powersupply start but with no video signal.
if i put 3000+ into again, everything its ok.

i have the latest bios version
that processor is supported by motherboard
http://global.shuttle.com/Support/Su...em=SN85G4%20V3
theres no beeps

i have, reset cmos, choose multiplier before, change ram, change video card but problem persists

can u help me? thx
Greetings and welcome to NGOHQ!

Everything I've checked indicates that, as long as you got a 754 pin Athlon 64, it should work. In fact, your mobo is listed as one of those to which the CPU can be used. So, disregard the above reply as it DOES appear that the combination is compatible and supported.

When you put in the Clawhammer, are you absolutely sure that everything is secured properly?

Try reducing the multiplier to see if you can get it to sync.

Are you using an adequate PSU? 240W PSU is pretty weak.

Have you tried simply using the RESET button after it starts up instead of just shutting it down? It's possible that it needs to detect the devices and settings before you get a screen sometimes.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:13 AM   #5
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look here: http://global.shuttle.com/Support/Su...20(FN85%20V2.5seems like the CPU you try to use is not supported by the mobo
sorry mate ...
You should do a little more research as it DOES appear the combination is supported.

http://www.amdboard.com/shuttle_sn85g4.html


http://www.geek.com/procspec/amd/k8.htm


http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/...cat=184&page=1
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Old March 21st, 2007, 10:50 AM   #6
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Greetings and welcome to NGOHQ!

Everything I've checked indicates that, as long as you got a 754 pin Athlon 64, it should work. In fact, your mobo is listed as one of those to which the CPU can be used. So, disregard the above reply as it DOES appear that the combination is compatible and supported.

When you put in the Clawhammer, are you absolutely sure that everything is secured properly?

Try reducing the multiplier to see if you can get it to sync.

Are you using an adequate PSU? 240W PSU is pretty weak.

Have you tried simply using the RESET button after it starts up instead of just shutting it down? It's possible that it needs to detect the devices and settings before you get a screen sometimes.

thanks.
sn85g4V3 supports it
yes, im absolutly sure clawhammer its ok on the socket. (easy)

the psu i think is enough. its the official psu. i tried to use a weaker video card (6600 gt) but it doesnt start.

im gonna try to reduce multiplier and/or use reset button
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Old March 21st, 2007, 11:15 AM   #7
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sn85g4V3 supports it
yes, im absolutly sure clawhammer its ok on the socket. (easy)

the psu i think is enough. its the official psu. i tried to use a weaker video card (6600 gt) but it doesnt start.

im gonna try to reduce multiplier and/or use reset button
I'm still not convinced that the PSU is adequate. Today's systems are requiring more like 400 - 500W PSUs. And, the more devices, e.g. HDDs, CD/DVD drives, add-in PCI cards, case cooling fans, etc, will elevate the power needed for the system.

Try this: ONLY connect the video card and DISCONNECT all HDDs and CD/DVD drives for now. See it you can get a POST screen. If so, you can take it to the bank that the PSU is too weak.

Then, if it does POST only hook up the System (Windows) HDD (if you have more than one) and see if it will boot into Windows.

Good luck!
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Old March 21st, 2007, 11:37 AM   #8
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I'm still not convinced that the PSU is adequate. Today's systems are requiring more like 400 - 500W PSUs. And, the more devices, e.g. HDDs, CD/DVD drives, add-in PCI cards, case cooling fans, etc, will elevate the power needed for the system.

Try this: ONLY connect the video card and DISCONNECT all HDDs and CD/DVD drives for now. See it you can get a POST screen. If so, you can take it to the bank that the PSU is too weak.

Then, if it does POST only hook up the System (Windows) HDD (if you have more than one) and see if it will boot into Windows.

Good luck!
its the official psu and officialy supports 3700+. i also have seen other sn85g4v3 systems with this clawhammer (another forums).
i have tried disconnecting all hdd/cd/dvd drives with no results.
reset buttom dont work. change ram dont work.

mmm... im gonna try to change/force multiplier.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 12:01 PM   #9
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if their site said it doesn't support it, why should I not belive them
to be absolutely sure about it contact Shuttle technical support
the BIOS is a major factor in newest CPU support
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Old March 21st, 2007, 12:08 PM   #10
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if their site said it doesn't support it, why should I not belive them
to be absolutely sure about it contact Shuttle technical support
the BIOS is a major factor in newest CPU support
hi. see complete post. their site says it supports it.

shuttle technical support says its supported

another people have it
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