technogiant

Those video's were funny....but the undeniably most stupid people in the world are those that are so consumed by irrational religious fervor that they strap explosives to their bodies and blow themselves up (it's unusual that there are a high proportion of women that are doing that, they have finally found something that their religion allows them to do..true equality)....no matter how many questions those yanks got wrong there was a distinct lack of exploding people...also didn't see any background shots of government officials publicly beating 75 year old ladies.

It's probably a good job the USA is surrounded by oceans or those same idiots that condone women blowing themselves up and the beating of grannies would be standing on their borders firing rockets indiscriminately into their territory at civilians which appears to be their second favorite pass time.

lyla

The USA used boats so they could be standing on their borders firing rockets indiscriminately into their territory at civilians which appears to be their favourite pass time.


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see how that works.

technogiant

LOL...yeah its funny how sympathizers always try to draw parallels like that.
They seem to forget that the majority of right minded people can tell the difference between the actions of a democratically elected government acting within international law in the defense of their own security or the right of others when compared to the actions of a bunch of self serving terrorists who seem to think they have to god given right to kill those that don't agree with their misguided extreme religious opinions.

Promilus

I doubt USA don't torture somehow their captive terrorists or terrorist wannabe... Thre were some 'drowning simulation' which is a torture by international law yet still used by USA (CIA). And btw what about preemptive strike?

Regeneration

If you have someone that has details about upcoming terrorist attack on innocent civilian sand refuse to talk, you must "make" him talk at all costs to prevent it.

And just because there are no terrorists attacks, it doesn't mean they are not trying… every year there are thousands of serious threats and most of them are being prevented by intelligence services such as: CIA, Shabak and MI6.

You never read about it in the newspapers as it’s classified. But these intelligence services are working day and night, even holidays just to protect us and ensure our safety. Of course they are getting a lot of criticism for its tactics, but they don’t have many choices.

Don't ask me why/where/when, but one time I even saw (in my own eyes) a report of terrorist threats for the weekend, it was like 500 pages.

technogiant

I think most right minded civilized people are sick to death of the rhetoric from people that empathize with these middle eastern countries....haven't they got the sense to see through the lies and twisted half truths this collection of despotic corrupt so called leaders keeps pedaling....don't they see that these leaders just cause anti western and religious fervor just as a means of manipulating their largely uneducated peasant populations and unify them behind the government cause and so secure their position and causing terrorism as a result.
All this nonsense about the USA having ulteria capitalistic motives for their actions....just think about it...OPEC has been screwing the west for decades over its oil prices....If the USA was the monster these jumped up dictators make out don't you think they couldn't have just rolled in and taken what they want years ago.
The middle east should be thank full that the west is so tolerant and civilized but also needs to realize that if a bug keeps biting a giant on the ass no matter how mild his disposition he will at some stage stomp on it.

Promilus

I wouldn't underestimate them. Right now they're scattered (and easy to dispatch with medium force), but if USA push them too much all those muslims will unite and...well, USA would become that bug biting giant.

technogiant

"Push them too much".....I think with that phrase you summed up the problem....why is the Muslim world so determined to interpret every action of the USA and The West as a crusade against them and the Muslim religion?
They went into both Iraq and Afghanistan for distinct reasons as they were perceived to be a threat and harboring terrorism. It would make no difference what religion those countries were.
The fact that they were both Muslim countries bears testament to the fact that political and religious leaders from the Muslim world are inciting hatred of the West which is boiling over into terrorism.
Neither the USA or the West want war with the Muslim world but conversely it seems the Muslim world would love to bring this about...I thought religious people were meant to be peace loving?...is it part of some desire for a worldwide Islamic state? That is the Western interpretation of your aims.
The Muslim world needs to understand the West will not tolerate states that support terrorism and as long as their leaders go on inciting such activity there will be more Iraq's and Afghanistan's.
If such a sad event as a world wide conflict ever came about the USA would not be the bug...numbers do not mean anything particularly when half the Muslim world can barely feed itself let alone wage war against a super power...also the USA would not stand alone but with Europe and the rest of the civilized Western World (Muslims are not the only people who can form brother ships).

Promilus

There were none incident involving terrorists from Iraq and there were NONE ballistic weapon there. So invasion on Iraq was USA assault on independent country. Sorry - that is a fact.
Well, there are ppl in USA which would love to get rid of 'non white' Americans Are they any better than overzealous Islam leaders?
Well, USA is also terrorist country. They fought their rightful ruler (Great Britain) with any means :P
Yeah...you call those ppl terrorists, while they call themselves freedom fighters.
Well, I wouldn't count on that - when USA was not on any map Europe fought Muslims...and believe me that crusades were more like total failure And about Iraq - sorry, maybe they received limited democracy, but believe me they can turn against USA very quickly. Just as Afghanistan did (USA supported Afghanistan during USSR-Afghanistan war, remember Rambo <III?>).
Sorry for my English, I know it's far from perfect, but I believe I can understand you just as you can understand me, right?
And BTW - USA isn't that strong, after a recent crisis I can tell that it's more fragile than anyone think. Yeah, it's stronger than most countries, but can't call it ROCK SOLID :P

technogiant

Yes I can understand you fine...and I'm sure your grasp of English is far better than my grasp of your language

As regards Iraq I did say "perceived threat" perhaps they were wrong or perhaps the evidence was just well hidden in such a vast desolate country...either way what type of "invasion" allows for democratic elections and hands power back to the native people...hardly a conquering army....

Yes there are people in the USA that wish to get rid of non whites...these people are treated as criminals for their activities by the USA government....not treated as hero's as the radical Islamic leaders are in their Islamic home countries.

The Americans are terrorists because they overturned the British....? Not really they revolted against the rule of law within their own country....which is quite different from terrorists attacking other countries who are not occupying their territory over differences of religion and ideologies.

As regards the original crusades....well weren't they 400 years ago....most countries have moved on since then...sadly some appear not to have.

While I don't want to get into "my army is bigger than your army" type arguments as I think war is a terrible thing and the worst possible outcome. I do think you are underestimating the strength of the US and Western military might....standing in a group with several thousands of people getting all fired up over a radical speech and waving a machete in the air might make people feel unbeatable but they are no match for professional fighting forces with modern weaponry engaged in a proper war rather than these stupid peace keeping missions that they are are involved in at the moment.

Anyway I'm not going to go on with this now...it is pointless...lets just hope that matters resolve themselves with the least possible blood shed.