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Old October 5th, 2007, 05:47 PM   #11
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hey Edward, calm down, everyone have rights about free speech, nazism doesn't only mean anti semitism since even more french has been killed, black guys too. Before talking big like that, try to find and read pro-nazism book. I, personnally, hate nazism since nazis killed mostly french and I have french blood, but even if they were too extremist, I can somewhat understand why they did that.

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Old October 5th, 2007, 07:49 PM   #12
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As a Dane I thought I'd post a followup to this old story.

The Neo-nazis did their march and as often happens when they do this kind of public display , other groups showed up to demonstrate against the nazis.

This time the Ultra-right nazis were confronted by Ultra-left anarchists and after some yelling and throwing of eggs , it turned violent - which was when the police stepped in and arrested over 100 people.

Among them were Nazi-leader Johnni Madsen who was put in handcuff and taken into custody , and will be charged with hitting a police officer.
Should he be jailed for this , it will not be his first visit in jail.

There is an article about it (in danish) here .. which includes a nice picture.
Nazi-Jonni lagt i håndjern


I don't much care for either the nazis or the anarchists, but I much prefer the system of free speech and right to assemble and demonstrate , we have in Denmark , because if only the people you agree with, have freedom of speech then it's not really freedom of speech at all.
Everyone .. good or bad .. must have an equal right to state their mind, in a truly free country.

Racist propaganda is illegal however and should they break the law , they deserve jail time.
You are free to speak your mind - not to hurt other people or encourage people to do so.
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Among them were Nazi-leader Johnni Madsen who was put in handcuff and taken into custody , and will be charged with hitting a police officer.
With an egg?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Post Re: Ykill - There is a difference between hate, libelous speech and freedom of speech

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hey Edward, calm down, everyone have rights about free speech, nazism doesn't only mean anti semitism since even more french has been killed, black guys too. Before talking big like that, try to find and read pro-nazism book. I, personnally, hate nazism since nazis killed mostly french and I have french blood, but even if they were too extremist, I can somewhat understand why they did that.

sry for my english
Hello Ykill,

This is what I am thinking about what you have written back to me...

I think there is a difference between Hate speech and Freedom of Speech - To be honest, i have not read a pro-nazism book - yet - It is something I don't think i could stomach.... But, in regards with what little I know of history - I find what the nazi's did to the Jews, those that said NO to their lies and to the "undesirables" (according to the hateful nazi ideology) absolutely dispicable, evil ......

I can understand when someone stands up for an injustice in their society Ykill- I'm all for demonstrations with a purpose to rectify societal ills- demonstrations based on truth- but what I do not understand is - Why have a demonstration on something that is completely false, wicked and evil ? I mean , I'm not a religious person - I'm a secular person (that believes that there is G-d we all have to respond to...) trying to find some sort of truth in this dark, bleak world of ours - But there has to a point where one has to say: NO, NO, NO to this type of hateful, libelous, evil speech. I'm not for spiuing absolute, outright lies of another group of people....

Let people have demonstrations - e.g.- Against world governments insatiable need to consiolidate more and more power - striping people of their G-d given rights, liberties - I'm all for that- Totally.... But when it comes to such hatered, lies and evil - nazi "demonstrations" and the like - I believe one has a moral responsiblity - one being religious or not - to stomp it out wherever it rears it's ugly head.

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