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January 26th, 2007, 10:00 AM
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#11 | | cel rau
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I didn't missunderstud anyone ...
replacing al capacitors isn't the correct solution, why? because that way, the board is defective and it's not!! why? because on many systems it does work flawlesly 
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January 26th, 2007, 12:35 PM
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Been following this thread and working in Car Audio for 14 years and electronics for 22 years leaky caps are always a concern in audio. If you own an early 90's Chev Caprice with a Delco Bose Gold system in it and are getting crackling and low audio there is a solution .... replace all the caps in the output section of the radio and input section of the amp. Have many examples from over the years.
In this case it may be more apparent on some systems and because these are manufactured in batches some may not be affected at all. The one pictured has some of the worst workmanship I have ever seen. Those long lead lengths cause inherent inductance which actually works against the natural properties of a capacitor. Higher the speed the more apparent it will be.
Not saying this could be "the" solution but it certainly is an issue .... I haven't seen workmanship that bad since high school electronics class 
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January 26th, 2007, 01:14 PM
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#13 | | cel rau
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Mac Daddy vbmenu_register("postmenu_40109", true); understands it perfectly ...
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January 26th, 2007, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by zme-ul I didn't missunderstud anyone ...
replacing al capacitors isn't the correct solution, why? because that way, the board is defective and it's not!! why? because on many systems it does work flawlesly | again, the board is entirely defective BECAUSE creative used junk caps. (just because it works, doesn't mean the caps are good.)
Most of the caps will work/are working! However that does NOT mean that all the caps are good, or even work well(they don't), as proven by example, some people have horrible problems getting their card to work, and in their case it could be solved by replacing all the caps.
Yes, macdaddy gave a more descriptive post than me, but essentially he's saying what I am.
I don't think the OP even had SCP, but he does mention a "pause bug", which I notice on my card as well, you should test for it too. Quote: |
Originally Posted by trodas When I say pause bug, I mean this. Using any player, play a AC3 5.1 movie while using 5.1 speakers on analog connection. Decoding filter has to be AC3 filter and it has to use 24bit output to generate enough data to trigger the failure. Now randomly pause and unpause the playback. Sooner ot later the channels start play from wrong speakers and/or there is terrible noise from all speakers comming after the unpause. This is a pause bug. I had it on Audigy (1), Audigy2zs and after two months on X-Fi as well. |
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January 26th, 2007, 04:13 PM
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#15 | | cel rau
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I can say this ... my card isn't the same as his ...
his card has a heatsink on the SPU, mine doesn't
currently I do not have any issues with the card; there was a driver release who got me some thinking but, the next one soved the issue; so it was driver related issue
replacing all capacitors on my card isn't an option if I destroy or damage the card I'm done ... I payed for it my entire one month revenue
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January 26th, 2007, 04:16 PM
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I know, I wouldn't want to do it myself either.
Perhaps a class-action lawsuit will force creative to do a recall, which is what I'm really hoping for. | |
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January 26th, 2007, 04:31 PM
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#17 | | cel rau
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it's just a dream 
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January 26th, 2007, 10:02 PM
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This is what I think: if you pay around 300$ for a sound card, there should be top quality caps on it, not lousy Jamicons. Composite caps for ever dudes!! 
BTW, you guys still havn't answered my question: is there an alternative to Creative cards that support all EAX formats and OpenAL?
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January 26th, 2007, 10:29 PM
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#19 | | cel rau
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I do not know the answer to your question
as you know, OpenAL is developed by Creative so ...
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January 27th, 2007, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by zme-ul Mac Daddy vbmenu_register("postmenu_40109", true); understands it perfectly ... | Cheers brother 
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