New LCD Monitor for my Birthday

blindartist · December 11th, 2008, 03:52 PM

Ive been using lcd for about 4 years now but i havent come across the issue your having. Did you installa color profile for the monitor? Some need it to work corectly, most dont, but if you havent done so then its worth a shot, if your monitor came with a disk then it will be on there, to install it go to Display Properties>setings>advanced>color management

IModIntel · December 11th, 2008, 03:55 PM

I can't really help you with that, the only LCD screen I've had is the one in my laptop, I've never had issues, it's a Samsung panel in my Toshiba notebook. My dad also has an LG Flatron 19inch LCD and has never had issues. Maybe a defect?...

Dyre Straits · December 14th, 2008, 10:49 AM

I just did a tape measure to compare the vertical viewing distance of my old 21 inch CRT to the new 22 inch LCD. The actual measurement shows that there is a 1/4 inch difference between the two. The LCD is the one with the shorter distance.

The CRT Max Resolution is 1600x1200; Dot Pitch = 0.24 mm
The LCD Max Resolution is 1680x1050; Pixel Pitch = 0.282 mm

Now, one thing I've noticed...especially in The Witcher...is that animations on the LCD seem to be 'wavy'. It's hard to actually describe what I mean by that. But, if we say the LCD screen is divided into something like 24 horizontal 'bars' it seems that each 'bar' is getting updated individually....or in 'waves' instead of the entire screen being refreshed at the same time. This is especially noticeable during facial animations when dialogue is happening. The facial animations are broken up into these 'waves' instead of a nice smooth facial animation. And, according to FRAPS the FPS are in the upper 30s and into the 40s.

I think I'll try to get a video using my digital camera to see if I can point out what I'm talking about. But, maybe those who already have LCDs can verify what I'm trying to describe. If so, is this 'normal' for LCDs?

blindartist · December 14th, 2008, 03:34 PM

ive used several different LCD monitors and never had that issue, and i play tons of games (inculding the witcher, killer game), if your still getting that green around the letters as well then you may need to RMA it

Dyre Straits · December 15th, 2008, 04:59 AM

OK. Take a good close look at this screenshot. This is from The Witcher while Geralt is talking with Carmen. I've put arrows to the 'lines' I'm talking about. If you're using an LCD monitor, I'd like to know if your LCD shows the same thing.

Now, for this test, I'm actually using DVI/HDMI with the LCD's native resolution. So, this should be the highest possible quality that can be output to this monitor.

Another note: This really ONLY seems to be this noticeable in The Witcher. I've tried a few other games that don't show this nearly as much.

Dyre Straits · December 15th, 2008, 03:45 PM

EDIT/UPDATE:

It appears I've resolved this image problem on my LCD. Adding 720p format to the output from the video card seems to have done the trick.

In fact, although my monitor isn't supposed to support it, I even had The Witcher running under 1080p @ 1920×1080. Being new to LCDs, is that even possible? My max resolution on this 22 inch monitor is 1680x1050. But, it didn't even hiccup at the higher setting. ???

Dyre Straits · December 16th, 2008, 07:15 AM

Another Update:

After playing some more of The Witcher at the current settings, I'm still puzzled by the information I've gleaned. Chalk it up to total previous inexperience with LCD monitors. But, this 22 inch that the specs show has a max resolution of 1680x1050 is clearly doing 1920x1080. And, the 'bars' shown in the previous image I posted are completely gone during the cutscene/dialog animations now.

A few to show the improvement.....

blindartist · December 16th, 2008, 04:08 PM

hmm, thats strange dyre, but i guess the important thing is that its working correctly for you now.

are you sure you have the exact same model as that page shows?

Dyre Straits · December 16th, 2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blindartist

hmm, thats strange dyre, but i guess the important thing is that its working correctly for you now.

are you sure you have the exact same model as that page shows?

It definitely is the same model. Even the manual that came with it states a max resolution of 1680x1050. You can do a search for CMV 222H and all the reviews show the same data. The only real discrepancy I've seen between the manual and the online reviews is that the manual clearly states that the monitor supports 16.7 million colors. All the reviews are stating 16.2 million. So, I'm not sure which is actually correct. I do know manuals can have errors in them.

But, as you can see from the images I posted, this monitor is clearly capable of doing the larger resolution. That's pretty cool, really. And, there's no overscan going on, either.

Also, the game performance for The Witcher is quite nice, too. FPS are well over 35 and average in the 40s.

**Regeneration** · December 16th, 2008, 05:05 PM

720p monitors aren't really supporting 1080p, don't be fooled by that smart scaling or 1080i. To see 1080p, you need atleast 37" monitor, otherwise its useless and probably smart scaling. I recommend that you use standard DVI or VGA (1680x1050) for games and browsing and HDMI (720p) only for watching HD movies.