My POV on Vista Retail

**Regeneration** · February 8th, 2007, 04:00 AM

A few months ago, I tried the beta version of Vista and got disappointed. Today, I tried the retail version of Vista with the latest official drivers. As usually, I had some hard time loading the nForce4 RAID drivers thanks to Nvidia’s laziness but I sorted after some time. I tried Vista for a few hours and I must say that I’m not impressed at all. The only differences between XP and Vista are: DirectX10 (useless atm), eye candy Aero and some more useless features.

I felt that Vista is very bloated and not smooth on my powerful rig. Gaming is still horrible on Vista and the only thing that kept on Vista is the eye candy features. Personally, I think that Vista is a rip off! You’re paying hundreds of dollars for some “updated version of XP”. I’m sorry, but I feel like the price is unfair and Vista is not that good like everyone is saying.

All these eye candy features coding is probably horriblem, because I don’t see any reasons to lose performance because of some cheap desktop toys. Vista is also loading tons of useless services and the performance loose is big and unacceptable. I wouldn’t use Vista, only for DX10 gaming; but I may consider it in a year or two. Currently, Vista is totally useless and a waste of money. You can take XP, and use 3rd party mods to make it look like Vista (screenshot below). We’re all hearing too much buzz about Vista and a lot of excitement; this is nothing but poor marketing attempts! Don’t believe to all this crap and don’t bother with Vista at the moment. Anyone that will say “Wow Vista is so cool!” is a total newbie/idiot or some Microsoft viral marketer/fanboy.

Mac Daddy · February 8th, 2007, 12:19 PM

Not impressed with this feedback either .. I still haven't tried it out myself ... not sure if I will

Delerious · February 8th, 2007, 12:34 PM

I have not installed it here either, but after playing with it for about a day at a friends who like Regen "just wanted to see" it wont be going anywhere near my HD anytime soon or his.
Anything useful like the new filesystem based on a rational database got ripped out very early on and from what i have seen a whole pile of junk/bloat added to paper over the cracks.

You can see why Bill stepped down (or was he pushed) from anything to do with OS's, after nearly 6 years work IMHO it is a joke. Will the real Vista now step forwards please.

kYdizzle · February 8th, 2007, 03:07 PM

i am running vista ultimate (no money spent...hint, hint), and i don't see any difference from windows XP except a better looking, memory hogging, beast. and driver support is terrible, nvidia has crappy beta drivers

, windows can't use my TV tuner, and my sound AC'97 has the vista beta drivers, and that sucks too

thank GOD i still have windows XP professional on my other HD (which i disabled while running vista, no telling what it would do to XP)

HaZe303 · February 8th, 2007, 07:05 PM

Well i guess im in minority here, but i like Vista. Its very stable on my pc. Much more stable than xp ever was. Sometimes i needed to re-install XP twice in a week. I had now Vista running since Launch without a hitch. Sure i agree driver support could be better, but it will get better soon. Sure it might look like xp and vista are the same on the surface, but they are not. The only reason they seem a like is, MS has done it this way, so people can feel at home with Vista. Regen, if Vista is unstable on youre pc, i must almost say that it is because of nasty NV drivers. Because it runs really smooth on mine. So as soon as drivers get better, Vista will be great. Specially when DX10 games start to surface to the market!!?

gen.Rage1991hrv · February 8th, 2007, 08:38 PM

Vista sux and we all know that
i have beta2 version and still sux i have no interes in buying one
we all need to wait for year or two becouse in this year (this summer) will came a SP1 and next year we will see a SP2 for Vista so it would be stupid to buy a unfinished version

Zandro · February 8th, 2007, 09:38 PM

Can`t say i have the same (bad) expirience with Vista Rege has had, but even if i had it wouldn`t matter because as a computer service tech and retailer i have to know what makes it tick. Yes i have had some problems with Vista but they are all driver related, soundcard (Creative, really bad beta driver) , webcam (Logitech, no driver at all) and the chipset driver (Nvidia....lazy bastards) At least it`s better then Windows 95 (couldnt sneeze without getting a BSOD)

Mac Daddy · February 9th, 2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HaZe303

Well i guess im in minority here, but i like Vista. Its very stable on my pc. Much more stable than xp ever was. Sometimes i needed to re-install XP twice in a week. I had now Vista running since Launch without a hitch. Sure i agree driver support could be better, but it will get better soon. Sure it might look like xp and vista are the same on the surface, but they are not. The only reason they seem a like is, MS has done it this way, so people can feel at home with Vista. Regen, if Vista is unstable on youre pc, i must almost say that it is because of nasty NV drivers. Because it runs really smooth on mine. So as soon as drivers get better, Vista will be great. Specially when DX10 games start to surface to the market!!?

I like this post just because you had the guts to post it M8

Linux has suffered from driver and product support for years and now MS is feeling the burn. Too many times have I seen "The new Cats suck" ... "The new NV drivers suck" ... Well my friend the OS is what sucks and companies are losing faith in MS.

The Vista platform was initially intended to be a continuation of the Longhorn Linux platform(Which MS bought out) ... has it lived up to its goals ?

In the last 20 years MS has released a lot of OS's and unfortunately I have to say I can count all the good ones with the fingers on one hand. I have one finger on my hand for MS if they expect me to install this anomaly on any of my machines

Delerious · February 9th, 2007, 11:29 AM

Vista suposed to have none kernal mode drivers so avoiding reboots when installing drivers increasing machine stability this was listed as one of the big changes to vista.

From what i have seen so far it is either been removed or nobody knows how to use it yet as all the drivers we installed (sound/graphics) asked for reboots as usual. Is this system so new that Nvidia and Creative are still playing in the dark?