Prabato

Rumor says it, installing an NGO Nvidia optimized drivers, works around the cold bug known in many 7800 (and probably other) GPUs.

Is that correct?

Personally I have a big problem in my new BFG 7800GS, I only get a smooth gaming performance when my card's temperature exceeds 50C, and I have been trying to manipulate fan speed with rivatuner but still I am unable to calibrate it in relation with the games I play.

For example, playing NFS most wanted or NFS carbon requires setting the 3D performance fan setting to high, because the GPU will heat from the beginning of the game.. but playing a game like Tiberium Wars 3 demo doesn't heat the gpu as much from the beginning, so I should decrease the performance 3d fan speed for it.

In other words, every time I have to re-customize fan speeds to be able to play smooth gaming.

This cold bug is making me quite annoyed, because I can't RMA the card as I live overseas. If the rumor is correct, please inform me, and if it's not, then I am suggesting NGO HQ to make this tweak enable/disable option in future drivers of NGO. And that would be great, thousands will be thankful and stop flashing their bioses

NB: I know many people like would like to see facts, so here is one of the users who suggested NGO optimized drivers as a work around for cold bug.

Thanks in advance,
arto

Regeneration

Yes. The NGO NVIDIA Optimized Driver solves many known bugs, that's why this project is so special and consuming so much time. Too bad Nvidia and their partners are looking to 'abuse' this site, rather of supporting it. With their support, we could have done much more.

Prabato

I guess we've got to find a solution for this. I mean.. why nvidia supports the Omega driver site and not this one? I am afraid there IS a good reason for that.

If the NGO drivers are not always released in a stable form (I'm assuming), then perhaps there should be more donators to contribute in testing the drivers before final releases.

As you could have noticed, I am trying to discuss this topic objectively to define exactly where the problem is and attempt to find alternative solutions.

From another point of view, I would like to know how I can support the NGO drivers and contribute in persuading nvidia support it. I am fully ready.


[NB: I know that was a bit off-topic, but I will try the NGO drivers and report back of the result, weather it fixed the cold bug for me or not.]

screenager

are you jokeing Omega is the nr1 victem of nvidia, there is a reason why omega doesnt make nvidia drivers anymore.

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Mac Daddy

Yep and last time I chatted with him he was even having an issue finding NV beta testers for his drivers

Prabato THX for the post and support of NGOHQ.com and the NGO drivers

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Prabato

Umm, then we should apply prabato's theory:


In other words, if ATi's high-end cards could give as much good performance as the nVidia's ones for a lower price, then we have more than one motivation to go for ATi and completely disregard the unsupportive side.

It's like when you're doing someone a favor and they don't like it.. so why do you keep doing the favor?

Mac Daddy, I am not giving any support.. but I asking how I can

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By the way, the drivers did not solve my problem because it seems my problem was not the cold bug anyway. Even when I flashed my bios with "temp monitoring disabled", it stuttered. BFG is telling me it could be a CPU problem, but that doesn't make sense :-|

Regeneration

They sent him a legal threat in the past, but they apologized for it. If I’m not mistaking, He’s not into Nvidia drivers because he doesn’t have any GeForce card around, at least until now. Unlike Nvidia, ATI never sent him or us any legal threats. Actually, ATI is being very friendly, helpful and useful for us. Most of our contacts in ATI are good folks and they are very nice. Only Nvidia is treating us badly and playing games with us.

That’s why we are not interested in doing any favors for them. When we asked to borrow some sample for a review, they always said they don’t have any and three weeks after, I saw other sites having roundups with ten cards. They are giving the same treatment to many graphic related sites, and only being nice to a very limited amount of websites. Nvidia is using ‘extortion marketing’ tactics with the press, if want any cooperation from them, you need to be their ***** and to do whatever they want you to do.

In the G80 launch, they didn’t gave us any briefings, sample, presentation or any document while they gave some cooperation to general hardware sites in unknown countries with much fewer visitors then us. Every freaking site on the web got something, except of us and our primary focus is their market. So tell me, what kind of cooperation and bullshit is that? Instead of being helpful, they are sending us legal threats and tell their partners not to work with us. But do not worry, we are checking on these who are following ‘do not work with NGOHQ.com’ order, and we will blacklist them in the drivers as response.

Prabato

Well, Regeneration.. it's quite obvious Nvidia is not cooperating based on the evidence you are providing, but let me have a suggestion for a minute.

I don't know any of the policies of ngoHq, and how you guys plan things. But from my perspective as a user (which could probably not fit in the big plan of ngo), here's what makes sense to me:

Whatever is the benefit gained by ngo (whether supporting the gamers community or else) part of it depends on distributing customized drivers for video card chipsets made by Nvidia. Such that, if the market share of Nvidia is half the gamers population, then your website's traffic and popularity is proportional to those half.

In other words, I know that you're doing the NGO optimized drivers as a free service (and I respect that alot), but it also holds true (from a marketing perspective) that you are promoting those drivers on behalf of Nvidia's reputation and name.

Which means that they have the power as long as the stuff you work on, is originally theirs. And although your good will support is for the end-user and not Nvidia, you are also indirectly intervening with their marketing plans. At least this is how I understood it from you.

Summarizing all this, it doesn't make sense to me at all to make this good work and effort in a house whoes owner doesn't want you to work on it. What if there is another house whoes owner is fully supportive and affirmative about your work? Wouldn't it be better to focus on one house and ensure quality work?

That's what I mean by.. go for ATi and you kick two stones with one shot. First you don't contribute in promoting a non-supportive company, and second you get to do a high quality work for one manufacturer.

Imagine PC Mag saying "NGOhq beats Omega, Finally" j/k

Indian

Is the temperature really the problem. With the NGO driver I can play BF2 forever without any problem anymore but a while ago I found a benchmark called Cinebench 9.5 which I ran after 2 hours of BF2 play and guess what? Black screen - looping sound etc.
So?

/Indian