why even bother releasing those cards the market is already saturated with r5** cards..

they should work on releasing the r600 series faster then messing with these castrated varients...

no way imm even gonna consider buying one of those so close the next gen.... specially not the highend ones....

We should wait for the reviews, 80nm should give some more overclocking room.

i dont mind waiting since imm in no hurry, but even with 80nm with more GPU overclocking head room these cards will fall into a hungry market....

u can c this in 2 ways

if ur buying a new pc these days and must have a card that performs imm pritty sure none of u would aim for a high end card such as x1950xt or 7900gtx or any varients of those (unless u get a real grate deal ovcorse) but u would buy the cheapest card giving u just the lifespan u need to survive till DX10 cards show their faces mainlly the R600 series since i have a feeling nv80 wont hold up to the whole deal.

and second way is the fact that the mainstream 7600GT since april (7900GS just recentlly) have been holding the mainstream cards sale for more then 5 months so most likelly anyone actually going to buy this generation of cards for mainstream perposes has already done it which leaves a meger cut for the 1650xt and leaves the 7900gs open to be filled which in my opinion is abit late since its the end of the cicle for these chips and there for basically not very usefull..

but am open for surprises.... maybe the market was just waiting for these cards and we will see a boom in sales but somehow imm skeptic....