ha! brilliant photo and article

EVGA is an Nvidia board partner. They are obligated to respect Nvidia's wishes on these types of legal matters. Blaming EVGA for fulfilling their role as a board partner is irresponsible. Furthermore, you are quoting a moderator who is neither an employee nor spokesman for the company. Shame on you.

It's obvious the author got her feelers hurt and is just lashing out.

Ha! this prooves that nVidia is IN FACT Behind all this "Anti-PhysX Mod" issue, i have an 8800GT, if nVidia keeps disabling the HARDWARE i payed for, then i will SUE nVidia for 15 millions dollars, YEAH! thats how much they offended my dignity and morality with their Greedyness... HA!

now the new game force u to use physx like metro 2033
there no way to disable physx, and physx make game laggy

Look at those two nice comments we got.

We don't put the blame entirely on EVGA. But EVGA does have some responsibility since its selling the products directly to the consumers.

And yes, our feelings are hurt... we don't like when companies disrespect our rights and disable features unrightfully.

If Nvidia thinks that this mod violates their IP then why don't they front up and sue instead of sneaking around in the background pressurising other people to boycot NGOHQ ect.
Reason is they know they have done wrong by violating the rights of people who have purchased their hardware.

Exactly. Microsoft pulled the same trick on the banned Xbox 360 consoles. Eventually, they removed the HDD crippling for some reasons.

Let us hope one day nvidia will do something similar with their shitty physx.

FWIW, I've never owned a nV card. I have had some curiosity lately as to how one would perform in my system compared to the HD 5770 I currently have.

But, all this nonsense from nV, [H], and others, just nailed the lid on any prospect that I will invest in any nV product in the foreseeable future. I just wish there was some way to block the "TWIMTBP" logo on the games I play. Perhaps nV could cripple THAT on systems that don't have their product installed.

I doubt it. Microsoft got criticized and even got sued for that scam. Nobody sued Nvidia so far and some sites like HardOCP and Guru3D are helping them.

regeneration got one huge fan if i must say.

just read this.

lol

really hope someone will stand up and sue nvidia...

I guess they could technically respond by saying you could use old Physx drivers that do work with any DX9 graphics card if you have an AMD/Ati graphics card? or do these drivers that worked no longer exist?

lol please.. call it for what it is.. kissing up... thats what EVGA is doing. Oh lol then you talk like the MOD is all on his own. What the mod said does not reflect the views of EVGA? I see you never have been a mod for a CO. And when nvidia is looking in to my system to see what I have and then block it.. yeah theres nothing wrong with that.. haha

Shameful behavior, but I must say I understand EVGA's position. The only problem is, it's only matter of time when Nvidia will choose to cut additional features depending on various parameters. Maybe in the near future AMD or Intel will also get the special treatment.

The only good thing about this whole ordeal is the fact that only nvidia owners got hurt, plus Nvidia scored even more negative points with ATI users.

As a company hosting a private forum, they can determine what they host or don't host for content. What you view as a "mod" they (or NVidia) might view as hardware tampering. As another poster stated, they are a partner, and have certain obligations. If people are so upset about not being able to post on a manufacturer's forum, I suggest setting up your own website to do your bandwagoning.

As for EVGA, they have made the best NV cards as far as I'm concerned, and when backed with a lifetime guarantee, they're hard to beat.

So to the author, let's get it straight. Before you start claiming rights, make sure you have them. Right now, in a private forum (EVGA) and whether or not it is publicly viewable, realize, you have no rights--it's been through the courts, and censorship/first amendment issues do not apply. If you're so concerned about the modders having a voice, why not create a forum here for them? No? Can't afford the bandwidth? Step up, or shut up.

It's a very sad that Regen doesn't make the habit of deleting rubbish posts.

haha. Good old nvidia, always making dick moves in the gpu market

yea they really should just change their logo to a big cack

No i think they all up ther have realy small dick`s

Thats what happens when you get anal warts.

Nvidia acquires PhysX to boost performance of it's own hardware. People figure out a way to use it to boost performance for Nvidia's competitors' boards. Nvidia releases drivers that block using it in that manner. And people are surprised about this?

Despite the popular opinion here, PhysX is currently the property of Nvidia. As an Nvidia partner, EVGA can't allow discussion of a mod to be used for their direct competition on their forums. It's like talking about an AMD mod on Intel's forums. Think that would fly? This whole artice is ridiculous.

Let ATI come up with something to compete with PhysX on their own, and the whole conversation changes.

Haha. Nvidia is at it once again. Robbing their customers from the products they bought, just because there is a amd gpu in a computer. So what, if you have n nvidia product and another product in your computer you have the right to use the features that the nvidia video card comes with, you paid for those features, and now since you have the competitors product, they disable what you paid for.

I think your a little bit miss guided, nvida owns physx sure, but when you buy an nvidia card that has physx capability you should be able to use that capability no matter what other hardware is in your machine.

What your saying is the same as saying Ford should make you car stop working if you try to put a aftermarket or competitor part in it, or a chevy engine should stop running because you paired it with a performance transmission, it doesnt work that way.

What components you use in your system, and what configuration you choose to have is none of nvidia's business, you bought their card to use its features and you should be able to use it regardless of what else is in your system.

But nice to see nvidia has their employee's out doing damage control.


Hehehe ok a really small cack with tiny nuts

You sir are a moron, I PAY for my 8800GT who was supposed to do PhysX when installed, no one ever told me that if i used an ATi then my 8800GT will stop doing PhysX, i would not have bought this GREAT Gpu, now nMorons think they can disable features on my INSTALLED GPU which i payed for with full price? maybe you are a little dumb to understand all this:

I bought my card for 2600 Pesos (220 usd)
Installed my card on my Mobo
PhysX was enabled
Enabled my onboard ATi
PhysX stopped working
I WANT MY FEATURES TO WORK FULLY! I DEMAND THIS!


Oh gosh, think i quoted the wrong person! i thought i quoted that "Unregistered" user, sorry for that BIGAL! fixed my post, no harm meant to bigal, my error.

EVGA make quality products..

but I dont like when they kiss Nvidia ass and support this lamer policy

@DarkLobo
Why did you quote bigal and call him a moron? he's against nvidia too you know? I don't understand why did you call him a moron, but k...

Off-topic
I'm still on an AGP system... T_T
But it still can run most games on medium-high settings at 1280*1024 thanks to ATI and their AGP version of hd3850! I know it's old but I don't have any money to build a new comp so... :/

On-topic (sort of)
Hail To GenL and his physx mod! F*ck nvidia. I don't understand why nvidia would do this... you still pay for the cards right? So why not undo this block and get some moar money from ATI users who also want to use physX as well?! sigh...

Please....a policy is a policy and without NVIDIA, EVGA wouldn't have any products...same goes for XFX, etc.

It's not like EVGA modifies the code to prevent this, it's NVIDIA you need to gripe to, not EVGA. It shows class that EVGA respects the policy, which is what they have to do in order to be a partner. Just be happy someone found a Mod and live with it.

Regarding intelectual property rights:

"Now, it has come to our attention that EVGA is preventing users from discussing the PhysX mod on their forums. "Sorry guys, but this thread must be locked here. We've stated multiple times in the past that discussion of the PhysX mod is not permitted on these forums, as it is a violation of Nvidia's Intellectual Property rights. This is non-negotiable, and as a partner of Nvidia, we must also respect its rights. Next thread discussing the PhysX mod will earn a warning." said nordicjedi, a forum moderator on EVGA.

Dear EVGA, before you talk about "intellectual property", let's talk about "property". Consumers bought a piece of hardware that was designed to perform several tasks. After some time, Nvidia deviously crippled the product and introduced new restrictions that weren't in the "minimum requirements", that's illegal - plain and simple. It's none of EVGA's/Nvidia's business if we have an additional Non-Nvidia GPU in our systems or not.
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When the property belongs to you, do whatever kind of mod you want, but as a partner of NVIDIA, the MUST respect the rights. Your right, it's not EVGA business what you do after you purchase the card, but when you post it on their forums, it is their business and have rights to remove whatever content they wish to respect the partner relationship. Telling people not to buy from a place that has excellent customer service, an upgrade program and a vast array of technical support that is often times instant on the forums, is just foolish and really discredits this website. Maybe this website should have better requirements for people like regeneration who post rubbish like this!

And without the consumer, EVGA wouldn't exist neither. We don't like this scam with good reasons. Rubbish? so far I'm the only person around who cares.

Other sites are only about making money...They are not going to bite the hand that feeds them...

What is wrong is Evga is stopping its consumers discussing the mod, no one is asking Evga to host or support the mod. It does not damage or infringe on Nvidia's Intellectual property to discuss mods/drivers/games or the beginning of the Universe. I could agree they don't want people linking or hosting the mod on their site, however discussing the merits and demerits of a piece of software that may be relevant should never be banned. After all the discussions could all be pro not using it, or similar. It is wrong to block an entire subject for discussion, under the guise of IP, when Nvidia do NOT own the IP to this MOD.

They would lose in a court of law. Especially considering they sold the product without the proviso that "Physx will disable if a non-Nvidia GFX card is present." and with the minimum requirements of any DX agp/PCI-e DX9 card. Ofc Evga consumers may find it relevant to discuss "why my Physx isn't working", "how can I get it working?"....whats next, discussing any graphics drivers bugs, hardware faults are not allowed has they infringe Nvidia's IP also.

Check out the recent update.

With moves like this it's no wonder Apple uses nV GPUs. Birds of a feather flock together.

Lets see how long this lasts, they may yet redeem themselves.

If you will read EVGA's Terms of Service, the comments made become property of EVGA as they are the owners of such forum. It's like saying you can use foul language on the forums but EVGA didn't say it. There are reasons why it's not permitted. There are also other forums such as this one where it is ok. But this website isn't an NVIDIA partner, now is it?

Hey everyone, it's Dr. corporate defense! Welcome! We're glad you're here representing the saintly companies against the evil consumer!

LOLOLOL

its as simple as this EVGA owns the forums....EVGA have forums rules, one being

Illegal Activities - Do not discuss, suggest, engage, or encourage any ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. Links provided to locations that deal with any such activity will be turned over to the proper authorities. Discussion of pirating games, movies, and/or software content obtained through mediums, such as using peer-to-peer networks - torrenting, specifically - is prohibited and will earn a warning.

Until its ruled a legal hack of the Nvidia owned property EVGA is within its rights to not allow continued discussions on such subject matter

I suggest not buying any more nMorons gpu´s of such EVGA, XFX and all the rest Saintly companies, who obviously our malicious behaviour is hurting their godly sales, i say FUCK them all and start buying our selves ATi Only GPU´s untill ATi becomes like nMorons.

CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT, youre daaamn wrong mr unregistered! at least have some dignity and register your account or get the hell out of here! Ohh Uhh! seems thats exactly what you btches are doing over at EVGA Forums, NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH... maybe Reg should disable unregistered replies, but heck... in this place you are free to say/type whatever you want, too bad you cant have the same freedom of speech we have over here.

Not blaming EVGA, they are just being sissies and defending their inversion, which is ok i guess.

What is being argued here is that EVGA just BANS anything related to PhysX on their forums, to be honest they are on their right to be pussies and kiss nMorons "WacknSmack", its their Right as payed btches... but where is OUR Right as customers to have FULL ACCESS to the product we payed for? can you explain us where Mr Unregistered? i dont think you can, but i dont blame you for defending nMorons, you seem to be a Employe or Representative for EVGA.

To be honest i do like EVGA, since i use their Precision OC tool.

I see that some ppl here dont understand whats this news all about? When U buy a product U pay for every single thing of it, for eg when U buy a GPU U pay frr the card, drivers, cables a single letter on the box and every feature that is provided with the product! So by buying nvidia 8+ series card U get a physx with it and if Ur system meet the minimum requirements then all of the card features have to work!
Some ppl wrote that nvidia has to defend their bussines, but I got 2 questions:

1. Is robbing a way to defend? Try it and U'd finish in jail :P
2. Why dont the nvidia make a simply better card than ATI - the problem would dissapear!

nV can't make a better offer currently.
Instead they lie to us customers (see the fake fermi board presentation) and they even punish us by not letting us use features we payed to have.

ROFL! that was awesome. You must register now, we need you onboard.

XFX are not even selling fermi cards, they don't depend on Nvidia like EVGA do, XFX are happily selling ATI 5000 GPU's.

Nvidia are going down the pan fast, their current GPU's are not up to much and their market antics are deplorable, Physx is not worth bothering about anyway, Nvidia killed it off when it became their closed propriety software, look at what crap is coming out that supports physx, it's dead.

I'm confused about something....If you remove or disable the non-nVidia GPU, does PhysX start working again?

If so, nVidia isn't removing functionality you paid for. It's still there and useable.
If you still want to use a non-nVidia GPU, you have a choice.

lol yeah, you have a choice to use Nvidia hardware exclusively even though there are no real technical limitations. People like you deserve what they get from Nvidia.

Being an Mod for an corporations forum makes you a spokesperson for said company as when you are engaged by them to moderate on their forums you agree that the actions you take whether good or bad reflect on the company and shall be held accountable for said actions

You must be slow... REALLY Slow, my GPU is still there installed with drivers and enabled as my second gpu, just PhysX refuses to work on this scenario, oh geeesh! i even have a monitor attached to it and miraculously it works! i think you are just out of your mind, im sure your wallet full of nMorons dirty money or you are a total nMoron Fanboy.

Me as a costumer, i got a Message for nVidia:

FUCK YOU MORONS, never buying one of your dirty GPU´s AGAIN! if i can sue them i fucking will... but Mexico Legal System is pretty much a joke... but i am seeing the possibilities of sueing this bastards.

ATi/AMD said before Game Developers Conference in San Francisco:

* We will consult with the gaming community to help align our innovations to their wants and needs.
* Wherever feasible we will move quickly to move our innovations into the industry standards.
* We will provide the technical and business support game developers need to help make their games a success.
* All gamers, those with AMD hardware in their system, or not, deserve the best gaming experience possible.


Just check what they said on the last sentence, i think that beats what ever nMorons says and do. ATi does care, this is the type of products i am willing to spend 1000 USD a year.

Nice fake letters. Sounds pretty much like what they are saying to they're consumers. Ha, nVIDIA IS JUST ASS HURT OVER AMD.

Sorry for the error Bigal, i already fixed my "Quote" in the previous comments.

HUH......EVGA, Hardocp and nvidia all in bed together....

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2010/05/...a_gtx_480_deal

The sweetner for carrying out nvidia's wishes and perpetuating their lies.

I have a suggestion, seeing how we have a product that doesn't work despite me meeting all the requirements on the box, then are they not false advertising? or some how breaking the law? can't we do a petition or better yet a class action law suit against Nvidia? I'm super willing to put my name on this class action law suit and either get this problem fixed or reimbursed money for my inferior crippled product?

fck nvidia , we can rally op some people and sue them ...
this is a violation of the first degree , its my stuff that i bought therefore i gain the right to use it with its full features even with a non NV GPU installed next to it.