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Old 30 April 2010, 02:54   #1
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It has come to our attention that HardOCP has recently published false accusations regarding GenL's PhysX Mod. HardOCP claims that mod is infected with a Trojan and recommends avoiding it and avoiding files offered by NGOHQ.com. HardOCP hasn't even bothered to contact us to request clarification, response or explanation before it published the story. In addition, HardOCP's Kyle Bennett has posted the following fascistic comment on his forums: "NGOHQ will never again see a link on HardOCP and within a few days, the name will be banned from being typed here at all. The only reason it is not right now is so that it can be discussed easily."

We have checked GenL's latest mod by using advanced tools and we couldn't find any record of malicious content in it. The file is fully clean and safe, like all the other files hosted here. However, some Antivirus software does detect it as a Trojan, but that's just a false positive due to the included EXE packer. Software developers use packers to compress their executable files and protect them from being cracked and debugged, a well known fact by every software developer and end-user. GenL is forced to use a packer since Nvidia has blocked his mod in recent drivers and it is likely they will try to do it again. GenL has even warned users regarding the false positive issue in the FAQ.

GenL has written the mod out of good intentions and in good faith to help the community. He's not getting paid for his work and he does it in his free time as a hobby. He's working hard just to help you and doesn't see a single buck from it. Therefore, he doesn't have the budget to acquire a good commercial packer, and he's forced to use a free one. Unfortunately, malware developers are using the same free packers in their malware in an attempt to avoid Antivirus detection. To counter this issue, some Antivirus suites are targeting and banning free packers, and that's why GenL's mod is detected as a Trojan in those suites.

GenL is a community hero and deserves to be rewarded for his efforts. We are proud having him around and we welcome more creative users like him. HardOCP's has failed to provide even a single real piece of evidence and we consider their claims against us and GenL defamatory. We believe that HardOCP should compensate GenL with a donation for their offending error. After all, GenL does us all a favor - for free - out of good will. We also recommend that HardOCP should check their sources and investigate before they publish false accusations.

Regarding Kyle Bennett's comment, we would like to invite all HardOCP users to join our fascism-free forums. Unlike other websites, NGOHQ.com is a consumer-orientated website and proud of it, and we will always be loyal to this policy. Our loyalty to our readers cannot be sold or rented. We believe that someone has to protect consumer rights even if it's unwise financially and may turn vendors against us.

Update #1: Users have informed us that now Guru3D and Rage3D are also misleading their readers with the same false accusations.

Update #2: Now it seems that Kyle Bennett has censored the word NGOHQ on HardOCP.

Update #3: A few readers have brought to our attention that only two months ago, HardOCP falsely accused someone of selling counterfeit Intel processors. Eventually, HardOCP almost got sued for slander and was forced to apologize. So it seems that making false accusations without any evidence is nothing new for HardOCP.

Update #4: TweakTown has tested GenL's PhysX Mod and everything worked fine for them.

Update #5: Guru3D has wiped all the comments in its site.

Update #6: Comodo has verified our claims. Check it out.

Update #7: Hilbert Hagedoorn of Guru3D has apologized and edited his trojan article with the following: "This news-post was invalid and we are happy to report that the mod was a false positive."

Update #8: F-Secure Security Labs have emailed us too.

Update #9: Symantec's reply has arrived.

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Old 30 April 2010, 03:20   #2
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I wonder if Nvidia paid them to publish this to hurt the PhysX mod.
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Old 30 April 2010, 03:28   #3
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More reasons to hate nVidia, im sure this comes from nVidia...

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Old 30 April 2010, 03:29   #4
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Now thats funny Sazabizc. If you had EVER bothered to read anything over at [H] then you would pretty much know that they bash on nVidia pretty good.
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Old 30 April 2010, 03:59   #5
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I have first hand experienced the fascism that is [H]. The guy runs the site like a supreme dictator that can never be wrong, its quite pitiful because once you make him look bad he immediately backlashes and in my case turns into a little child. Nevertheless, the conclusions that Kyle had reached regarding this software is clearly something that was hasty and not thought through and smacks of disregard for the impact it could have on your site. Imagine if the opposite had happened to Kyle? Would he be happy? hell no.

Either way, a singular virus scanner is not the best way of checking if some software is malicious... hell, not even 2 virus scanners are.
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Pathetic, I certainly wont be visiting their site again.
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Old 30 April 2010, 04:22   #7
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I'd personally sue them idiots for these false accusations! I know a good attorney if your interested!
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Now thats funny Sazabizc. If you had EVER bothered to read anything over at [H] then you would pretty much know that they bash on nVidia pretty good.
Never really bother reading anything from [H]ard|OCP and probably never will. Anyway glad you found that funny
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like Rege said amateurish journalism at its best.. investigate before you accuse someone..
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Old 30 April 2010, 04:45   #10
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To be honest, never heard of that site before... But i have known NGOHQ since their nVidia performance drivers... maybe back at 2005, who cares about HOCP nooby site.

Their will get their ass handed in a dog bowl.
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