When fermi arrives it will be crazy expensive. And it will be about 6 months since the 5000 series release, so they are due to a price cut.
ATI will end up selling more cards than nvidia.

Don't we need SLI in order to have multiscreen? If so then it wasn't mentioned in the article.

You do yes, was in another post the other day that was linked in the first paragraph in this post.

http://www.shanebaxtor.com/2010/01/2...ming-on-fermi/

no... they won't. learn some math.

just another stupid gimmick tech

Not that I really care who sell how much of anything, but perhaps you'd like to share your calculations of the matter ?

The thing is that alot of people, even former nvidia fan's, have already bought the 5xxx series, so nvidia is gonna be hard pressed to convince them to blow a small fortune on a card that does the same things that the card they own already does, plus ati is gonna roll out their lineup refresh not long after fermi is released, so will it do that great? Honestly it may not.

Fixed.
There are no numbers available to verify exactly how many people bought cards, regardless there are currently many people who are unhappy with bugs in drivers, or bugs in card functionality which will always work in pushing people back to nvidia. Granted this has been the case for many a nvidia user who has switched to ATI at some point only to be burnt by broken functions, features etc.

the Quality reviews done recently with the 5xxx series pretty much gives me one more reason not to go there, and that is really shockling SHITTY anisotropic filtering, causing distance blurr.

Yea im not too impressed with the quality of some of these cards at present, which is a big reason I havent bought into them yet, but nviidia doesnt give a rats ass about its customers which is why I would never buy one of their cards. Plus fermi is just a paper card right now, it may turn out to be junk, their drivers my be no better (nvidia has had their share of driver problems).

Right now Im just holding out in hopes that the next wave of ati cards will be of better quality.

All in all I cant say im really happy with either side right now, nvidia is a shit company and ati is pushing out sub-par products, its a real toss up.

What we really need is a third competitor to enter the market, give both nvidia and ati a run for their money.

Care to elaborate?

Check out steams latest hardware polls, the te 5 series hasn't swung users from nvidia to ATI at all.

ugh.. wow.. and if this issue BFG10K has discovered isn't fixable with drivers.. then im even more against purchasing a radeon 5 series

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=12648&page=2

Most of those people are using old videocards and can't afford new ones.

....right......


and thats about as believable as the existence of the Force.

The majority of users are using the 8000 and some of the lower 9000 series. Old generations of hardware, but reliable ones, I can see why they aren't in a hurry to buy new videocards.

You see, I actually LOOKED at that survey which by the way doesn't reflect the hardware in places where steam isn't popular.

Hey man...dont diss on the force, the spork is with you

Sporks are dangerous, use caution!

http://xkcd.com/419/

And they actually don't need to do that. No swinging required, it's enough to bring in new users to sell more cards. Especially when considering there is less and less inter "generation" leap and more reasons to skip a generation or few.

Look at it this way, if there was a new guy coming to the market (or maybe an old user with a crappy machine) looking for best bang for their buck, would they go with last "generation" Nvidia card? Probably not, as there aren't any. And there aren't going to be any for a while. And when they do come, I reckon the price will he hilarious.

The AF isn't that bad or even noticable when playing games to be honest.

Fanboys... my 8800GT runs well enough in all recent games maxed out at 1600x1200, but i do plan to buy a HD5600, i dont care for EYEFINITY or SURROUND, as long as it runs games SMOOTH im good to go, i dont understand all these AMDATi-nVidia crap fanboys.

When you push high resolutions you dont really need to have AF on, HONESTLY.. if you care about such things then youre probably a hardcore NERD.

maybe because your eyesight sucks.

Youre a frakkin dumbass.

AA sure.. but NO AF?, distance textures will appear blurry as fuck and even mid distance text will be distorted.

Just to give you an idea on what AF does (because you dont have a clue)

Call of Duty 4 running on my ATI 5870.

No AA, highest in-game AF, no CCC installed.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...6-07-51-00.png

No AA, lowest in-game AF, no CCC installed.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...6-09-00-15.png

The difference is so small and it becomes lost when gaming.

It's not as obvious as Halo though. And my eyes are fine Squall, I don't think it is necessary to demean fellow members.

Resolution DOESN'T DO SHIT FOR REDUCING THE NEED FOR AF.

Texture Sizes DO.

Yes, most of us are all aware of that, there is no need to mention it. I just wanted to show that the ATI's AF is not as bad as you say. If you didn't see any difference between those two photos that I provided then I reached my goal.

uh.. yeah, it IS as bad as we say

http://www.technewshw.com/forum/show...newpost&t=2863

Well enjoy your experiments and findings, to me they are just another internet article to read about and and I will forget about it in several days. It won't benefit or harm my already purchased card or affect my future purchasing decisions, because it is such a small issue, which to me looks like it is confirmed when KrossX said "In games though, is not that noticeable."

I'm through, I have other things to focus about, like finalizing my trip for the Chinese New Year. Happy Chinese New Year, Squall and all.

entirely depends on the game. if it uses a large amount of small textures to make up geometry it will be noticed.

infact the AF causes oversharp on PC characters playing ToS on dolphin

The greatest fanboy has talked! you all must shut up and worship his nVidia Gods or you are just Frakking morons because you dissagre with everything he says! now worship worship! before my fanboyness will cease!

Morons who dosent have a clue about "CHOICE", yep! tons of them cant handle with you disagreeing and having your own opinion on things, i give a damn about the pics you posted Sir, as long as it runs games smooth you can roll those pics and shove them up your... you know hehe.

I think this proves who the real fanboy is, when he can't even see that his card is doing filtering wrong proving it to be faulty in design or faulty in software.

Nope, i got an nVidia 8800GT which works quite awsome and i also got an ATi HD3200 onboard that has run anything up to date on lowest detail haha.

I was planning to get an HD5600 because the price/performance, you got to understand some people cant afford highend GFX or even dont care at all about detail as long as the games runs smooth, that you happend to like ubber ultra high quality detail dosent makes you a "frikking" dumbass, its just your own choice of gaming, and who dosent it is also their own choice of gaming, that also dont make them morons.

All my past cards has been nVidia, i started with the 5200FX, 7300GT, 8400, and my best GPU so far its the 8800GT and i just love the damn thing! the only ATi gpu´s i own are the Radeon 9200 laptop and the HD3200 onboard.

Its not like i am switching to "ATi", because i was never on nVidia side, honestly i dont care for any of the two companies, they can both die or keep on, ill just grab what ever fits my pocket and gives good performance.

So what if the 5000 series are failing on AF? thats makes everyone a "dumbass" like you mentioned? no, ill probably wont even turn the damn thing on if it was working anyway, you got to respect people own choices and opinions and stop acting like a little scaredy rat that hisses to anyone who disagrees with you, THATS BEING FANBOY.

But the vertical stripes issues is INDEED nasty, i may even wait for a good affordable nVidia gpu.

I have praised and whined about both companies, whinning more about nVidia lately for being an asshole and crippling my 8800 physx.

So sure! im a fanboy... we all are by your terms.