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Windows 7 is the next release of the Windows client operating system, built on the secure foundation of Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008. Performance, reliability, security, and compatibility are core tenets of this release as we collect your feedback to meet our engineering goals of making Windows 7 the best-performing and most stable Windows operating system to date. New innovations in the product are designed to augment your ability as an IT professional to better provision and manage increasingly mobile PCs, protect data, and improve both end-user and personal productivity.
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• 1GHz 32-bit or 64-bit processor.
• 1GB of system memory.
• 16GB of available disk space.
• DVD-R drive.
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Last edited by Regeneration; April 30th, 2009 at 10:44 PM..
| | | | 61 Comments | | | how long does the key work for? | | | | I think it will work until full retail version is released or something like that. So something like Q3-Q4 2009? Im not sure, Im wondering the same thing but it sounds kind of logical? | | | | | | is it true this build won't upgrade over previously installed one and must be installed clean ?? | | | | | | uh
the Release Candidate expires in June 2010, where yo do get the 3/1 from? | | | | | | heh, all those faggot Beta blogs got it wrong then. | | | | Need to set up a Resume option for downloads of this size. Comcast has been doing maintenance tonight and I've had to restart 4 times already.  I'm eager to see what's been done but wonder if there's anything actually new that hasn't come through via Updates? | | | | What do you think Dyre i shuld try the 32bit , or try the 64 bit with my rig ??
I dint try Vista even once , but i like to check this out , dunno whit one to use , i have both downloaded and burned. | | | | x64 is faster then x32 in alot of things these days. | | | | Most of the software and games still doesn't have 64-bit binaries. You better off with 32-bit until Microsoft pulls the plug on it and force everyone to support 64-bit. Hell, you can't even browse the internet with 64-bit due to the lack of 64-bit version of Adobe Flash player. | | | | That doesn't mean anything. Sorry to bring you all up to date like this, but x32 applications run better on x64 OS's because of better cpu management.
This is the case on Phenom II and C2 arch's anyway. | | | | 64 bit has had very few drawbacks for me since using it. I'll definitely be getting the official release in 64 bit when W7 reaches the final version. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by squall_leonhart  That doesn't mean anything. Sorry to bring you all up to date like this, but x32 applications run better on x64 OS's because of better cpu management.
This is the case on Phenom II and C2 arch's anyway. | 32-bit applications and games are running slower on my i7 and Vista 64-bit. | | | | I have not experienced anything like that with Win7, Regen. I am running a C2D with Win7 x64.
I must admit though, I had a lot of issues getting Vista to work properly on this system, and 7 is working great. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Regeneration 32-bit applications and games are running slower on my i7 and Vista 64-bit. | I don't have Vista 64-bit to compare to. But, everything is running faster for me on W7 Beta 64-bit compared to Vista 32-bit.
BTW, if I'm reading things correctly, this Window 7 RC downloaded from here is version 7077....not 7100. Anyone care to comment? | | | | 7077 is not RC its beta >.< | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by squall_leonhart 7077 is not RC its beta >.< | I've downloaded this version from here; burned the DVD, copied over the contents to a HDD, opened up the sources directory, opened the cversion.ini file. I see: [HostBuild]
MinClient=7077.0
MinServer=7000.0
So, if I'm understanding things correctly, this is build 7077....not 7100. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyre Straits if I'm reading things correctly, this Window 7 RC downloaded from here is version 7077....not 7100. Anyone care to comment? | I haven't installed it myself, but it came from an official source and the filename is 7100 something, so I guess its 7100. I think that MinClient is the minimum version required for upgrade (If you would like to upgrade to 7100, you need build 7077). |
Last edited by Regeneration; April 26th, 2009 at 09:27 PM..
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Originally Posted by Regeneration I haven't installed it myself, but it came from an official source and the filename is 7100 something, so I guess its 7100. I think that MinClient is the minimum version required for upgrade (If you would like to upgrade to 7100, you need build 7077). | Thanks. I'm just trying to confirm the correct version of the file. | | | | Then you just wasted 3+ GB's on a mislabelled version | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by squall_leonhart Then you just wasted 3+ GB's on a mislabelled version | According to my benchmarks, Vista 32-bit with 3 GB provides better performance of 32-bit applications/games than Vista 64-bit with 4 GB of RAM or more. Only 64-bit binaries (and maybe exceptional 32-bit applications) run faster on Vista 64-bit. Most of the games were running slower (Between 5-20 fps) on Vista 64-bit.
The fact that only 10% of my software has 64-bit binaries convinced me to remove Vista 64-bit and to take one DDR out. It won't change until Microsoft will pull the plug on 32-bit and force everyone to support 64-bit, which I hoped to see in Windows 7, but I guess we will have to wait more.
Even Valve has dropped 64-bit support from Steam. I couldn't even find 64-bit binaries on Valve's games or other Steam-distributed-titles such as Crysis. It's pointless to use 64-bit OS just to boost 10% of your software and to slow down 90% of them. |
Last edited by Regeneration; April 26th, 2009 at 09:45 PM..
| Quote | | | | | I have 6GB of ram, there's no way in hell I'm using 32-bit and making HALF my ram useless. | | | | cversion.ini determines what builds setup will allow you to upgrade. This is the file you edit if you're still on 7068 or older and you want an upgrade install.
Check setup.exe for the real build number. 6.1.7100 is what it says.
Regen said this, I'm confirming. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazure I have 6GB of ram, there's no way in hell I'm using 32-bit and making HALF my ram useless. | Install both versions and benchmark both. I'll not be suprised if you find out that half of your RAM is already useless. | | | | I run a lot of things at once. Yeah, a given app may not use more than 2gb cuz most are 32-bit still, but it allows me to run more at the same time, because windows itself can stick each app comfortably in a nice blanketed amount of space since the OS itself can use all 6gb. I often see my memory usage beyond 50%, since I do a lot of stuff at the same time (i'm not the most focused individual).
What people fail to realize is, just cuz a single 32-bit app can't use more than 2gb even under 64-bit, doesn't mean that this is the case for when you're running many apps at one time.
Also, note that I do have some 32-bit programs and games that provide me MORE fps in windows 7 64-bit than in windows XP SP3 32-bit. If what you say is true, then why is windows 7 64-bit giving me far better results for these applications and games?
Even if some apps do run slower, it's not worth losing access to 3gb of my ram that I paid for that I do actually use just from how much I do during the day. Also, I actually ENJOY the aero interface, not that plain windows 98 junk people still actually use for some reason, which benefits a bit from extra memory (if anything, for thumbnail storage). | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerowinder cversion.ini determines what builds setup will allow you to upgrade. This is the file you edit if you're still on 7068 or older and you want an upgrade install.
Check setup.exe for the real build number. 6.1.7100 is what it says.
Regen said this, I'm confirming. | Thanks for that. I had to leave for work and only got back home a moment ago. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Regeneration Install both versions and benchmark both. I'll not be suprised if you find out that half of your RAM is already useless. | you can easily use more then 4GB's these days with several games, and applications. | | | | Just to let you know: I did re-download the 64-bit version and used the Upgrade option. It took about an hour to do the upgrade and I'm now using Evaluation copy. Build 7100.
EDIT: BTW, the CD KEY from my previous Beta worked without any problem. Got it activated online just a few moments ago. |
Last edited by Dyre Straits; April 27th, 2009 at 02:59 PM..
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Originally Posted by Regeneration According to my benchmarks, Vista 32-bit with 3 GB provides better performance of 32-bit applications/games than Vista 64-bit with 4 GB of RAM or more. | I'll test this theory of yours, mate. All I can say for now is that on my machine GTAIV (v1.0.3.0) runs better on Windows7 (build 7000) then it does on Vista Ultimate 32bit. IMO it's because of the ridiculous RAM usage/requirement. It's not like there's a large FPS difference (I'm usually getting around 39FPS in both cases), but the game is a lot more smooth on Windows7 64bit.
Crysis (v1.2) offers more or less the same results on both systems. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mkey I'll test this theory of yours, mate. All I can say for now is that on my machine GTAIV (v1.0.3.0) runs better on Windows7 (build 7000) then it does on Vista Ultimate 32bit. IMO it's because of the ridiculous RAM usage/requirement. It's not like there's a large FPS difference (I'm usually getting around 39FPS in both cases), but the game is a lot more smooth on Windows7 64bit.
Crysis (v1.2) offers more or less the same results on both systems. | All I can tell you is that, for the games I've been playing, Windows 7 64 bit produces a much, much smoother gaming experience than Vista 32 bit. And, this is on the exact same hardware but using different HDDs for the OSes.
One example is The Witcher. I got really choppy playing when moving Geralt around on the screen in Vista. But, with W7, it was smooth all the way.
And, I've noticed other games are just a lot smoother with little or no choppiness under W7. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyre Straits One example is The Witcher. I got really choppy playing when moving Geralt around on the screen in Vista. But, with W7, it was smooth all the way. | Witcher was a bit choppy for me on 32bit Vista as well. But only in crowded rainy areas and maxed out. It mostly happened in the trade district (IIRC). Anyway, the enhanced edition got optimized quite a bit.
Anyway, most of my tests were toward comparing Vista SP1 and XP SP3 and most games had 10-15% more FPS in Vista. | | | | I have one major problem with windows 7 , that i cant fix.
And its very noticable system stuttering.
Like in firefox when i fast scroll the page i see it , its a lil glich and the rate of it in games is exacly the same as in desktop , even moving the mouse fast will show it.
Im gonna explayn it below.
Well i installed the 32 bit version , it went with no problems .
Also sound drivers for my HDA card worked (tryed on board HD audio to fix the stutter , dint change ).
Driver , the one that w7 updated it self.
My main point was to see how or if GTA 4 will work .
The game installed with no single problem , and i dint use any of the compatibility mode for the install , i dont have to use it even for the game (if you use any it will kill like 15 frames).
Afted installing all the tweaks and setting the game exacly how on XP, i bencharked it , and it gave me the same results as XP +/-41 FPS
When i started to play i noticed that overall the game works muth smoother . The normal XP stuttering casued by reading date from disk is gone.
But the one i was speaking of , is very annoyng and visible. I lowered all settings to lowes and ressolution to , and its still present , so its not a game problem.
Same problem in Americas Army , game work with no probs, but same as above.
Any clues what culd be caussing this. Beta system + beta GPU driver ??
Did anyone experienced something similar. ??
PS. The only solution to fix it (in games) is to set prerender limit to 8 , but then a huge mouse lag is on. |
Last edited by nCaine; April 29th, 2009 at 05:04 PM..
| Quote | | | | | the only real problem i can see me having with windows 7 is with DirectDraw games.... like starcraft, the messed up colour bug still hasn't been fixed... | | | | WATCH OUT GUYS
There is a windows 7 torrent about which has modified the setup.exe with a trojan. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by nCaine I have one major problem with windows 7 , that i cant fix.
And its very noticable system stuttering.
Like in firefox when i fast scroll the page i see it , its a lil glich and the rate of it in games is exacly the same as in desktop , even moving the mouse fast will show it.
Im gonna explayn it below.
Well i installed the 32 bit version , it went with no problems .
Also sound drivers for my HDA card worked (tryed on board HD audio to fix the stutter , dint change ).
Driver , the one that w7 updated it self.
My main point was to see how or if GTA 4 will work .
The game installed with no single problem , and i dint use any of the compatibility mode for the install , i dont have to use it even for the game (if you use any it will kill like 15 frames).
Afted installing all the tweaks and setting the game exacly how on XP, i bencharked it , and it gave me the same results as XP +/-41 FPS
When i started to play i noticed that overall the game works muth smoother . The normal XP stuttering casued by reading date from disk is gone.
But the one i was speaking of , is very annoyng and visible. I lowered all settings to lowes and ressolution to , and its still present , so its not a game problem.
Same problem in Americas Army , game work with no probs, but same as above.
Any clues what culd be caussing this. Beta system + beta GPU driver ??
Did anyone experienced something similar. ??
PS. The only solution to fix it (in games) is to set prerender limit to 8 , but then a huge mouse lag is on. | Stuttering like that is almost always an IRQ issue. make sure you upate your sound and video drivers. | | | | One other suggestion about the stuttering that I've read on several other forums:
Set V-Sync to ON and use Triple Buffering. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyre Straits One other suggestion about the stuttering that I've read on several other forums:
Set V-Sync to ON and use Triple Buffering. | Im using it always from about 2 years now,
But my problem is not only game related | | | | OK i fixed the stuttering by seting mouse to 1000 Mhz USB (Mouse) Rate .
Now GTA 4 beats the shizznet out of playng it on XP. Its so smooth compared to XP on my rig. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by nCaine OK i fixed the stuttering by seting mouse to 1000 Mhz USB (Mouse) Rate .
Now GTA 4 beats the shizznet out of playng it on XP. Its so smooth compared to XP on my rig. | IMO it would work even better on 64bit OS. | | | | gonna try the 64 os in some days and gonna post how it went . | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by squall_leonhart WATCH OUT GUYS
There is a windows 7 torrent about which has modified the setup.exe with a trojan. | This is true - can anyone confirm if the file on NGOHQ is definitely an official RC build?
You need to confirm that the MD5 checksum on the ISO is the same as the known safe MD5s -
* Windows 7 RC Build 7100 x86 is 8867C13330F56A93944BCD46DCD73590
* Windows 7 RC Build 7100 x64 is 98341af35655137966e382c4feaa282d | | | | Just downloaded the file and compared checksums - all matches up okay, no trojan here. Thanks NGOHQ! | | | | why do people care about W7 RC released in here is true or not true....if you don't want it then wait until the real one release from MS.....dumbass | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered why do people care about W7 RC released in here is true or not true....if you don't want it then wait until the real one release from MS.....dumbass | because people like to have the best of the best, and Vista is not the best, so Windows 7 RC/Beta is the next best step. | | | | ATI WHQL Drivers for Windows 7 RC1:
I just grabbed and installed the drivers from SoftPedia.com. Although they are still the 9.4 version drivers, the version for the CCC is from late April.
Here's a snippet from the site: With the announcement, AMD also said that a full unified WHQL-certified driver for both Windows Vista and Windows 7 was scheduled to become available later this month, with the release of the ATI Catalyst 9.5 set of drivers. However, before the release of ATI Catalyst 9.5, users can download the WHQL-certified graphics drivers for Windows 7 right here on Softpedia, following the links below: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Downl...7-110849.shtml |
Last edited by Dyre Straits; May 6th, 2009 at 11:20 AM..
| Quote | | | | | nvidia also have Windows 7 drivers based on the latest 185 builds online now. | | | | I today trayed the 64 bit win 7 + the new drivers , and GTA4 works like a dream (Still after all the tweaking , but muth better that Xp or 32 bit win 7) | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by nCaine I today trayed the 64 bit win 7 + the new drivers , and GTA4 works like a dream (Still after all the tweaking , but muth better that Xp or 32 bit win 7) | Totally told you so  |
Last edited by mkey; May 11th, 2009 at 07:34 AM..
| Quote | | | | | Can I use 64-bit win 7 with an Intel Core duo 2? | | | | Yea i have E2160 and its running great clocked to 3.2 with win7 64 bit |
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Originally Posted by Superfly Can I use 64-bit win 7 with an Intel Core duo 2? | Of course. | | | | Ok...Installed Win 7 RC and didn't seem to like my laptop. It disconnected me from the internet after it went to hybernate and back and only reboot would fix it. Installing XP back as we speak, I want a bit more reliable windows. :P | | | | Well, afaik both Vista and Windows 7 have hibernate and standby fucked up. I just don't use them anymore. | | | | Vista's hibernate is fixed, has been for awhile.
Superfly, this is caused by using the built in or Windows update drivers. download the latest vista drivers for your network device and the problem will be fixed. | | | | Why the fuck do people Beta test for microshaft for free? Even their initial release software is bug ridden until SP1 at a minimum.
BTw I've completely skipped vista (after checking out winxp64) and have not had a problem running anything. Dx10 is a red herring. | | | | what the fuck are you on about. Windows 7 is the most stable pre SP'd operating system ever to come from Microsoft. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Superfly Ok...Installed Win 7 RC and didn't seem to like my laptop. It disconnected me from the internet after it went to hybernate and back and only reboot would fix it. Installing XP back as we speak, I want a bit more reliable windows. :P |
Who told You to make it Your main OS ??? | | | | laptops generally don't have the space needed for multiple operating systems.... | | | | Yeah that's true and since I have 2 computers, my laptop and desktop, it doesn't matter if it's primary or not. | |
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