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Of course I still read all of the Vista bashing and well and it rather ticks me off, there’s nothing wrong with Vista at all actually, I’ve been running it since it came out and I haven’t had any problems at all really. Now if I go back to XP, well that was a nightmare when that came out, hardly anything I had worked in terms of hardware, even stuff that was brand new didn’t work with XP, but when I installed Vista everything worked fine.
I can remember getting it the day it came out, all excited to run home and install it only to run into more headaches than I care to remember, I hated it honestly, nothing worked right at all. When I read all of the Vista bashing and how wonderful XP is, it makes me wonder if any of these people actually remember the problems with XP when it came out, the numerous hardware and software incompatibilities that existed with that OS, none of that was there with Vista.
You can read the entire article at TestFreaks. | | 29 Comments | | | still lovin Vista 64 - best operating system i've ever used and i now ensure im running it on any PC i own. | | | | what a piece of BS; I guess he didn't had to deal with SLI or Crossfire and the inability to use many gaming peripherals |
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| Quote | | | | | Well, like most OS Vista did have some annoying problems at first (mainly driver orientated) but almost all of those problems have been solved now. If you're planning on using more than 3GB RAM then there's really no better choice than Vista 64 - great gaming performance overall too. | | | | this is stupid, i think its just a tiny bit too early to be seriously testing gaming performence, ill be sticking to xp till 7 is actually finished and mature drivers start to roll out for it, no sense in wasting money on vista i can hold out a few more months | | | | I have played Left 4 Dead, COD 5, GRID and UT3 all without any major gain or loss in performance. I took the upgrade path from Vista X64 Ultimate to Windows 7 Ultimate X64. | | | | Wow, what are you guys thinking???? Windows 98 SE hands down is the best operating system ever, took NOTHING to run and had perfect compatibility....
Id run on it if my hardware supported it :P
and XP was barely good for gaming...... Vista is a resource hog but I like it, I wouldn't waste my time and money on a 64 bit operating system tho
Ultimate 32bit for the win | | | | This is interesting. Users at several hardware forums have benched windows 7 higher than vista in games. Wonder what's going on. | | | | Unix ... I'm starting to think MS is paying for reviews/previews, I can't understand the sudden "light" on W7
from my tests and a few others, W7 behaves in games the same as Vista or a bit slower and that's mostly because of immature BETA video drivers | | | | As for myself, I've noticed a definite performance boost in the games I play using Windows 7 64-bit. However, I'm pretty sure it's mainly due to the difference between Vista 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit. Since I have 4 GB of Dual Channel RAM installed, I'm sure this is the significance of the difference.
Example: The Witcher -- I had some 'jerkiness' when running Geralt around the landscape using OTS view in Vista. But, in Windows 7 it's a smooth as warm butter. I couldn't be happier with the performance.
The only way I could really do a good test to see if this is it is to go ahead and install the Windows 7 32-bit version and see how that performs. But, personally, I'd rather not do that right now. It just seems logical that it's 32-bit vs. 64-bit under these conditions for me. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyre Straits  As for myself, I've noticed a definite performance boost in the games I play using Windows 7 64-bit. However, I'm pretty sure it's mainly due to the difference between Vista 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit. Since I have 4 GB of Dual Channel RAM installed, I'm sure this is the significance of the difference.
Example: The Witcher -- I had some 'jerkiness' when running Geralt around the landscape using OTS view in Vista. But, in Windows 7 it's a smooth as warm butter. I couldn't be happier with the performance.
The only way I could really do a good test to see if this is it is to go ahead and install the Windows 7 32-bit version and see how that performs. But, personally, I'd rather not do that right now. It just seems logical that it's 32-bit vs. 64-bit under these conditions for me. |
Yeah Dyre, but if you are normally using 32-bit OS and you test a 64 bit OS then you are almost certain to see a performance improvement when gaming with 4GB of RAM?
I doubt there is really much performance difference between 64-bit W7 and 64-bit Vista. I would still go for the Vista option simply because it is more mature and there will be less "complications.." | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dammit45 Wow, what are you guys thinking???? Windows 98 SE hands down is the best operating system ever, took NOTHING to run and had perfect compatibility....
Id run on it if my hardware supported it :P | Windows 98 SE   | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Syncroneyes Yeah Dyre, but if you are normally using 32-bit OS and you test a 64 bit OS then you are almost certain to see a performance improvement when gaming with 4GB of RAM? | Oh dude 4 strength 4 stam leather belt? Ahhh! | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by zme-ul Unix ... I'm starting to think MS is paying for reviews/previews, I can't understand the sudden "light" on W7
from my tests and a few others, W7 behaves in games the same as Vista or a bit slower and that's mostly because of immature BETA video drivers | Everyone on emuforums says its faster in every way, and lighter in memory usage.
Being they are all heavy gamers, and more intelligent then your average computer site rifraff, i'd believe them over any review site.
Windows 7 does appear to have a bug in DirectDraw games, since the taskbar causes broken colours in DDraw games. and requires explorer.exe to be closed to run them otherwise. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Syncroneyes Yeah Dyre, but if you are normally using 32-bit OS and you test a 64 bit OS then you are almost certain to see a performance improvement when gaming with 4GB of RAM?
I doubt there is really much performance difference between 64-bit W7 and 64-bit Vista. I would still go for the Vista option simply because it is more mature and there will be less "complications.." |
Wrong.
x64bit has no effect on performance, if anything, it will actuallylower it because 32bit games are run through a 32bit VDM, and an overhead occurs.
running x64 versions of the game is another story, since x64 optimisations are put in place.
No, the reason for windows 7's performance improvements is because Vista is ratshit, and has performance cut to improve stability, where as stability has been reached while keeping the performance on Windows 7. there is also a sort of pre threading that occurs to improve multithreading, and a bunch of other stuff. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Hueristic | Windows 9x is only good for GDI and DirectDraw games.
Windows XP is better for Direct3D and OpenGL. Windows 9x relied on that shithouse gdi and user resources to do everything and it was limiting as fuck to use. | | | | I think he means back in the day | | | | squall I did noticed W7 uses memory a bit differently but it's not revolutionarry and surely not a jaw breaking experience
I did some head to head "real life" game test and some 3dmarks ... and W7 doesn't overtake Vista in any of them
I have seens a lot of W7 BETA previews or whatever U want to call them, I don't understand from where the hell they find those numbers
I'm a non believer in any site unless I see if for myself, if I can; this time I sure can | | | | which sites, there are some which definitely inflate the numbers for bribes, but ngemu isn't one of them.
the only complaints there are from the random idiots that fuck up their dual boots by installing network drivers..... | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by squall_leonhart Windows 9x is only good for GDI and DirectDraw games.
Windows XP is better for Direct3D and OpenGL. Windows 9x relied on that shithouse gdi and user resources to do everything and it was limiting as fuck to use. | Gawd, You know so much and know soo little. Win98SE was the most stable and last version of Dos. | | | | cllearly i know more then you, since you can get Dos 7.0 seperated from the OS. | | | | here's my FarCry2 (DX10, ultra hi settings, 1280x1024) bench between Vista and W7
Vista: 
W7:  | | | | are you using the W7 demo drivers? if so they are based on FW160, install Forceware 178. | | | | what are you talking about?! forceware ... I'm using ATi card | | | | that explains it then.
Your choice of failcard has bad drivers, the improvements to windows 7 which improve performance cannot be used by the current drivers. (Catalyst 8.12)
Wait for Catalyst 9.1, or update to the leaked beta, and you'll see the difference right away.
Whats the difference, and why can't the current drivers benefit?
It all comes down to multithreading support.
The current official ati drivers do not have ANY. not in the driver core, and not in the opengl ICD.
What does this mean?
It means your performance is limited by the current drivers, available from your video chip maker, Because the driver is not multithreaded, CPU operations, such as the Prerender state used to prepare frames on the cpu (which is still done in vista) is being done on a single core, lowering the overall performance of your system. the new driver will balance the cpu operations (IO threading, instruction preparation etc) across multithreads, which will improve the overall performance. | | | | oh .. you actually want me to believe in multithreaded drivers that actually work
if I remember they were promised by ATi and nVidia since Vista emerged and still no show
I'd rather believe in drivers that skip rendering scenes, objects and other stuff to make people believe in greater performance | | | | Nvidia's drivers ARE multithreaded, you can believe me on that, because they actually do cause issues with the emulator epsxe. (Incorrect frame ordering) | | | | | | frack, only Linux as yet, figured that'd mean there was XP/Vista drivers as well. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by squall_leonhart cllearly i know more then you, since you can get Dos 7.0 seperated from the OS. | I'm sure you do, LOl | |
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