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New York Passes New Violent Video Game Law
Posted by Dyre Straits on July 23rd, 2008, 02:27 PM

Video games sold in New York state must clearly label ratings for violent content under a law signed on Tuesday, which rights groups criticized as likely unconstitutional. The New York Civil Liberties Union said that it planned to mount a legal challenge against the law, signed on Tuesday by New York Gov. David Paterson, as it raised free speech concerns.

The group said that similar laws in California, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota and Washington state have been thrown out as unconstitutional. The U.S. video gaming industry submits to ratings on a voluntary basis, and the system is similar to movie ratings. The new law says that is it compulsory for games that are already rated to be labeled and also requires that new video game consoles are installed with parent-controlled lockout features by 2010.

"This legislation will provide information and educate consumers to help them make better choices for their children," said state Sen. Andrew Lanza, a bill sponsor. Robert Perry, the NYCLU's legislative director, said the new law was a "back-door" way of regulating video game content.

You can read the entire article at Yahoo News.

Last edited by Regeneration; July 23rd, 2008 at 03:22 PM..

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These game ratings don't seem to make much difference anyway as younger people always seem to get a hold of them, but it still seems silly to try and stop something/anything that might reduce violent behaviour.
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ultimately, just a way to sell more games...
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who cares, i'll buy my 6 year old Grand theft auto 10 anyway. Video games don't cause violent teens, Bad parenting does.
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who cares, i'll buy my 6 year old Grand theft auto 10 anyway. Video games don't cause violent teens, Bad parenting does.
I agree. Fuck the Nanny state!
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who cares, i'll buy my 6 year old Grand theft auto 10 anyway. Video games don't cause violent teens, Bad parenting does.
Well now, if buying a 6 year old a Grand Theft Auto game isn't an example of bad parenting, I wonder just what you consider to be "bad parenting"?
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I agree. Fuck the Nanny state!
Thats just great, why have any laws or rules anyway eh? - lets just all do what we want to! F**** everyone else in society! You guys sound like you're still in grade school.

Go read the post about the kid in Thailand murdering a taxi driver straight after playing GTA IV when you've finished detention.

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Well now, if buying a 6 year old a Grand Theft Auto game isn't an example of bad parenting, I wonder just what you consider to be "bad parenting"?

You beat me to it, this is a pretty good point.

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Well now, if buying a 6 year old a Grand Theft Auto game isn't an example of bad parenting, I wonder just what you consider to be "bad parenting"?
Bad parenting is not presenting the differences between reality and fantasy., Violent video games DO NOT effect the psychology of a child.

Poor Parenting DOES.

I've been playing games like Doom since i was 6, and im less likely to go and massacre a school then my neighbour who plays tetris on his gameboy.

Bad parenting is leaving it up to the state to do your job.
Bad parenting is not properly educating children on sex, drugs and alcohol abuse.
Bad parenting is allowing your teenage son to become a pig towards women leading him to serving 20 years for rape.
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Thats just great, why have any laws or rules anyway eh? - lets just all do what we want to! F**** everyone else in society! You guys sound like you're still in grade school.

Go read the post about the kid in Thailand murdering a taxi driver straight after playing GTA IV when you've finished detention.
Sociopaths are gonna be Sociopaths whether they play GTA or Parchisi! Maybe we should just lock everyone in a cage from birth and no-one will ever get hurt? Duh
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Sociopaths are gonna be Sociopaths whether they play GTA or Parchisi! Maybe we should just lock everyone in a cage from birth and no-one will ever get hurt? Duh
Duh...of course that makes sense - now why didnt we think of that before

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Originally Posted by squall_leonhart View Post
Bad parenting is not presenting the differences between reality and fantasy., Violent video games DO NOT effect the psychology of a child.

Poor Parenting DOES.

I've been playing games like Doom since i was 6, and im less likely to go and massacre a school then my neighbour who plays tetris on his gameboy.

Bad parenting is leaving it up to the state to do your job.
Bad parenting is not properly educating children on sex, drugs and alcohol abuse.
Bad parenting is allowing your teenage son to become a pig towards women leading him to serving 20 years for rape.
I cannot let this comment go unanswered.

I've raised 2 boys and 2 girls to adulthood and now have 5 grandchildren with another due in September.

Giving a 6-year old child a game like GTA is totally IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTING! A child that age does NOT need this type of activity or 'entertainment' PERIOD!

I'd say a lot more but, I think I've said what needs to be said about this. I cringe to think you actually have any children at all!
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stfu Dyre, just because your a dumb ****, who shelters his kids from harmless things doesn't mean everyone else is. Its that kind of fucked up sheltering that causes them to be emotionless, courageless, shells of human beings, that end up being deadbeat dropkicks.

Games aren't even half as bad as western media and television does to their self esteem, self image, and any psychological strengths they had. I'd rather my kids learn at an early age what video games are and aren't then have them become the next useless, drones that most people are these days to a broken society.

The fact your a fucking yank invalidates any retarded opinion of yours even further as its you fags that rely on the government to raise your fucking kids instead of doing it yourselves. As it is, the way the family unit works in the US of Fucktarded A, i doubt you even have that much to do with your kids, probably leaving it up to an overstressed wife, who will leave you (and the kids) for some random most likely younger guy, who pays more attention to her in five minutes then you have in the last 5 years. Which further puts the kids at detriment as then they have even less parental attention being stuck in daycare or shuffled around various neighbours who don't have the parenting skills to realise that its at this age that the realities and fantasies of life are taught.

Ending up resulting in your Daughter pregnant at 13, and your son locked up for robbing a liquor store, all of which could've been turned around by you actually teling your cunt of a boss to fuck off and stop making you do all his work, and actually spending time with your family.

VIDEO GAMES, DO NOT CAUSE VIOLENT, AGRESSIVE, OR RUDE TEENS.
THE AMERICAN FAMILY MODEL, AND ITS FAR REACHING INFLUENCE THROUGH MASS MEDIA IS THE CAUSE OF FAILED UP BRINGINGS

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stfu Dyre, just because your a dumb ****, who shelters his kids from harmless things doesn't mean everyone else is. Its that kind of fucked up sheltering that causes them to be emotionless, courageless, shells of human beings, that end up being deadbeat dropkicks.

Games aren't even half as bad as western media and television does to their self esteem, self image, and any psychological strengths they had. I'd rather my kids learn at an early age what video games are and aren't then have them become the next useless, drones that most people are these days to a broken society.

The fact your a fucking yank invalidates any retarded opinion of yours even further as its you fags that rely on the government to raise your fucking kids instead of doing it yourselves. As it is, the way the family unit works in the US of Fucktarded A, i doubt you even have that much to do with your kids, probably leaving it up to an overstressed wife, who will leave you (and the kids) for some random most likely younger guy, who pays more attention to her in five minutes then you have in the last 5 years. Which further puts the kids at detriment as then they have even less parental attention being stuck in daycare or shuffled around various neighbours who don't have the parenting skills to realise that its at this age that the realities and fantasies of life are taught.

Ending up resulting in your Daughter pregnant at 13, and your son locked up for robbing a liquor store, all of which could've been turned around by you actually teling your cunt of a boss to fuck off and stop making you do all his work, and actually spending time with your family.

VIDEO GAMES, DO NOT CAUSE VIOLENT, AGRESSIVE, OR RUDE TEENS.
THE AMERICAN FAMILY MODEL, AND ITS FAR REACHING INFLUENCE THROUGH MASS MEDIA IS THE CAUSE OF FAILED UP BRINGINGS
DON'T YOU EVER TELL ME TO STFU!!! EVER!!!

I have as much right and experience in this as anyone else on this forum and I'll say exactly what I want to say and as many times as I need to say it!

I did NOT say that 6 year olds cannot play video games. I DID say they do NOT need to play a game like GTA. I stand on that and ever will!
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You have little to no experience, Everything you state is a personal opinion which has no scientific evidence to back it up.

This is nothing more then typical propaganda, the same bullshit that started with Rock and roll, carried on with Alien invaders.

Grand theft auto, a game, is nothing compared to what you see and hear on the tv and radio these days. I've been playing video games since i was 6, i started with Super mario, the guy that gets bigger when he eats shrooms, Legend of Zelda, you gain money and life by killing thing.

I don't do drugs, and i don't go out stabbing people, The difference between Reality and fantasy is a concept not taught by most parents, because they simply can't tell the difference, having lost that ability in their own childhoods, which oh, video games didn't exist, no, it was Wars, Feminist protests, hippies doing drugs.

You want to know where it all started, look in the 60's when america fucked itself bad.
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You have no idea what experience/s I have. And, I do have lots!

I still shudder to think you actually have any children.

EDIT: Yes, I have more to add.

You have no idea what the 60's were like other than what you've read or heard from others. I LIVED through the 50's, the 60's, the 70's, the 80's, the 90's, and am almost through the 2000s!

I DID NOT let the government raise my kids, either. You seem to want to paint the whole USA with on broad brush. It just ain't that way!

Besides, if you do have a 6-year old kid, you must have become a father at 14 which is a very bad start if you ask me. And, per your posts, your judgment goes into the cellar from that point.

When you get 40 more years on you, then you can do some talking.

AND, yes, when I was 20, I thought I had the world by the horns, too.

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The list keeps getting longer.....

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3 teens charged in series of car bombings
By WALTER PUTNAM, The Associated Press
2008-08-07 23:43:13.0

MILTON, Ga. -

Three teenagers were inspired by the video game "Grand Theft Auto" when they destroyed three cars with Molotov cocktails last month in a tranquil north Atlanta suburb, authorities said Thursday.
One suspect admitted learning how to make the homemade firebombs from the game, which has been blamed for contributing to other violent crimes in the U.S. and abroad. Defenders of the game point to the few incidents reported, compared with the millions who play.
Officials said the boys, one 15 and two 16, will each be charged as juveniles with 19 felony counts, including arson and possession of explosive devices.
They threw six fire bombs made of Sprite bottles filled with campfire lighter fuel and stuffed with shop rags between 11 p.m. July 24 and 3 a.m. the next morning, starting fires in three cars and two driveways in a Milton neighborhood.
Officials found the teens by sifting through purchase receipts from local stores.
"Luckily, we found a purchase of Sprite bottles and shop rags on one receipt," said Chris Lagerbloom, Milton's public safety director.
Lagerbloom said investigators saw at least one of the teens buy the materials on Wal-Mart security videos.
He said all three had talked to investigators, with their parents' cooperation, and are now in juvenile custody.
Their motive was "for enjoyment, or sensation - to see what transpired," he said at a news conference announcing the arrests.
Scott Sweetow, acting agent in charge of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the ATF tracks 3,400 such firebombings nationally each year. Three-fourths are done for excitement or vandalism - 59 percent by juveniles, he said.
This is the latest violent crime in which authorities believe was influenced by "Grand Theft Auto."
Earlier this week in Thailand, a distributor of the game halted sales after a teenager confessed to robbing and fatally stabbing a Bangkok taxi driver.
An Alabama man, Devin Moore, was sentenced to death for fatally shooting two Fayette police officers and a dispatcher in June 2003, when he was 18. Moore's appeal, in which he claims he had lost touch with reality by continuous playing of "Grand Theft Auto," is still under consideration by the state Court of Criminal Appeals.
A civil suit brought by relatives of the victims against the game manufacturer, Take-Two Interactive Software Inc., is still pending. No trial date has been set, but a motions hearing is scheduled for Oct. 30.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1526719~3_...rgia_Headlines
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