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PhysX GPU Acceleration on Radeon Update
Posted by Regeneration on July 3rd, 2008, 11:36 PM

I would like to update you about what’s going on. First, we were very pleased to see so many users and readers have applied to our Beta Test Program! To be specific: 191 users, 5 spies and 2 double agents have submitted applications during the last week. Those that will be chosen will be informed early before the beta is available – we can’t still point to “when” at this stage.

The bad news is we still don’t have access to any HD 4800 hardware yet. It is very important for this project to receive AMD’s support on both developer and PR levels. It seems that AMD still is not being cooperative, we get the feeling that they want this project to fail. Perhaps their plans are to strangle PhysX since AMD and Intel have Havok. We truly hope this is not the case since “format wars” are really bad for the consumers (For example: Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD).

Before we get to the good news, I’m going to ask you to hold on to something steady as some of you are going to feel a bit dizzy after you hear this. The truth is… Nvidia is now helping us with the project and it seems they are giving us their blessings. It’s very impressive, inspiring and motivating to see Nvidia's view on this. Why they help us? My best guess would be: They probably want to take on Intel with CUDA and to deal with the latest Havok threat from both AMD and Intel.

Some other good news, we are getting a lot of help from cool journalists like Theo Valich to address the HD 4800 access issue. I can confirm that our CUDA Radeon library is almost done and everything is going as planned on this side. There are some issues that need to be addressed, since adding Radeon support in CUDA isn’t a big deal - but it’s not enough! We also need to add CUDA support on AMD’s driver level and its being addressed as we speak.

Last edited by Regeneration; July 8th, 2008 at 02:02 PM.

228 Comments
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I'm wondering how can you be converting CUDA from nvidia's Archi to ATI's one...
I mean they're really different, G80/G92 is made for Cuda etc... and R600/RV670 doesn't even have cache on its SP ! (RV770 has)

So this brings two questions : How will you be able to workaround these lacking features on ATI's Archi without quite huge performance drop ? Or will these just stay unsupported ?

thx again, this is a great work.

They really aren't all that different. Both are based on the Brook project so there are a lot of similarities there.
Well consider ati been doin math based algorithums for quite some time ( folding @ home ) . since the x1900 days . its not a matter if Ati's gpus can do physics its matter of IF they want physics on theiir Gpu's . personally having the Gpu perform Physics along side actual visuals of gaming it would allieviate the cpu's work load there fore people with dual core cpus or smaller cpus can still enjoy full out gaming experience . granted the vdeo card's performance will still be highly affected by the cpu but not in a sence to where it cant be enjoyable . ie. in crysis lets say the physics of that game was completly done off the gpu itself not the cpu , we wouldnt see such a hit in performance vs having the cpu do all the software based physics .
Overall i am more interested in the whole CUDA facility running on ATI hardware than just PhysX.

There is more to life than just games.
Some interesting things would be

CUDA compression (7z etc)
CUDA Audio/Video Encoder (More than Avivo XCode)
CUDA Emulators (if SOMEHOW this could happen could be very interesting. I would love to see PS2 emulator running GPU code on this)


and probably a heck lot more.
Can't wait for the future.
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Originally Posted by roger_ramjet View Post
Overall i am more interested in the whole CUDA facility running on ATI hardware than just PhysX.

There is more to life than just games.
Some interesting things would be

CUDA compression (7z etc)
CUDA Audio/Video Encoder (More than Avivo XCode)
CUDA Emulators (if SOMEHOW this could happen could be very interesting. I would love to see PS2 emulator running GPU code on this)


and probably a heck lot more.
Can't wait for the future.
Thx for bringing up the encoding,

Reg will this be able to support the CUDA based Audio/Video Encoders that are available now,

it works on Nvidia's CUDA cards.
I'm not really familiar with the Physics issue on video cards, but it seems to me that unless an API is created that is truly open, the entire concept of physics processing on the GPU is going nowhere. The last thing I would want to see is a proprietary NVIDIA API held over the heads of other video card manufacturers, thereby allowing them to further dominate the market and increase prices. Wouldn't an open API be the ideal way to go with everybody contributing to it's development? I don't know about anyone else, but I want to see more vigorous competition in the video card market...paying close to $600 or so for a high end video card is a joke. No other part of the PC component industry makes that kind of margin.
LOL. I check back every hour everyday hoping that there is a new link to download the drivers
BUMP. Double post
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Originally Posted by Spyral View Post
LOL. I check back every hour everyday hoping that there is a new link to download the drivers
I hear that man!! but when do u find the time after hanging out on the ATI forums? LOL
N3omatrix

I hope you are not confusing me with Spyre AMD's forum mod! when I logon this is my first site then Guru3d, then AMD forum see if I can help anyone there then log back here.lol and that is all I do everyday except weekend when I Dj
First, all apologize for my horrible english... I'm french

Since the year 2006 and the ATI physic's rendering Demo's, I'm waiting hopefully for a physic support anyway.

I think that Regeneration can be the right way for my dream coming true.

I'm ready to help you if you need Beta tester : I possess actually a HD2900XT and my hd4850 CF is coming soon.

( I post in 2 topic because i don't know wich is the good)

 
 
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