Hope is true

I have 2x 3870's in crossfire mode ...I cant wait to try this.

same here; tell us how

Rege, what exactly are you using to show this? I have the VisionTek 3870 but, when I open the PhysX app on my system, it only shows the Ageia name. This was installed when I installed the PT Knights of the Sea Demo. The version number in my app looks newer than yours, too.

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You have to be patience and wait a bit. But to be honest - I’m not sure about it, AMD really pissed me off recently, I’m not sure we should “reward” them with something like that. Oh, I need a copy of UT3, I have it on Steam, but it take years to download, any donators? never mind, finally got it.

Ha, ha, ha.

see in gpu-z ... hope ti avilable in xp too..

think of ATi as old ATI not as part of AMD
Dyre, Regen uses a mod of Ageya drivers; notice the NGO-HQ logo on bottom left

That's why I asked.

regeneration please share with us this mod ageia driver,because all with G92 score to much in vantage.

Hate to be a prude here, but post drivers or it never happened. Otherwise, nice PhotoShop.

lolwut,why dont you stfu ?

+1 on that

besides rege, nvidia threated you with lawsuits, blacklisted you and the works but youve been releasing more nvidia drivers then ati, havent seen a ngo ati driver in ages :P

Rege, it is loud around about you and ur physx mod for ati cards ;-)

Take a look e.g. on this:

http://pclab.pl/news33011.html


They called u "one uknown guy"... Just they're fools, i get blocked on their forum for some time 'cos i said that they news and articles are one-sided (nvidia&intel+firefox)... Just longer story....


If i only could i will give u all things what u need, but i can't :-( I'm hope that u will get from somewhere radeon hd2600 ;-) It could be interesting: physx on radeon hd2600xt ;-)

3850 can,G80 can not ........what the fuxk...

Stupid AMD just do it send Regen new radeon's . God they really hate you out there Regen. Idiots they should pay you at least a bit.
@SpectatorX It isn't that bad they at least wrote that is i NGOHQ.
@lolwut Just shut up.....

Who is with ban for lolwut? ;-)


Ye, they posted that ngohq can't get radeons from amd but they didn't say even Regeneration's nickname. In comments their journalist and moderator, nickname: Vega, said that ngohq's editor.

BTW, i don't like this guy, Vega, cos he is rude and don't avoid dirty language to users.

Nvidia released a new PhysX driver (version 8.06.12). It has that option.

Sad but true on Polish forums people are rude to each others just because of nothing they just simply don't understand that other can think differently than they and they just start talking dirty about them(not if I said it right but I think you should get my point). That's why I prefer foreign forums.

Oh PLEASE. That is the ultimate cop out for not actually having anything to produce. It would be simple enough to show that you are legit by posting a VIDEO (!!) of yourself dragging the physx window tagged with radeon physx and your logo around at decent speeds, literally a DESKTOP video. Why? Video is a hell of a lot harder to edit that a picture.

I'm holding out hope that it's true, don't get me wrong, but you picked the absolute worst excuse in the book to defend not releasing it

well ive never known rege to falsify anything or spread false claims so Ill take him at his word

Hey! We are still planning to make some cool video clip, patience guys! It takes time and some issues to solve first.

Is the PhysX API open source?...because then I can understand why ATI can't make there own drivers at least...otherwise I see no excuse in ATI's move..

If it's so easy to code and implement it, it sure is stupid of them to hold back just because of PR(even from that perspective it isn't profitable). They should instead be focusing in beating NVidia at they're own game and bring to the market what we have been promised for so long -> GPU accelerated physics.

I have a quad gpu setup, Can I beta test for you guys :-) 2x 3870X2!!!!!! I wanna see the score

That was cool Rege.
Looking forward to ur video clip

Hmm. So is this a definately no go for 4xxx series?

Do not reward ATI, reward ATI Users They are not responsible for ATI stupidity.

I have a new HD4850 to try it on!

HD4800 series won't be supported.

Yet.

It is purely due to him not having a sample to work with, not because of incompatabilites. Be patient, I promise it will come eventually. If not from him then from someone else.

either way beautiful fucking job man i think it is time for coders around the world to start making their own better programs then waiting for some stupid ass company to decide to release shit so they can try and make the most money off us the people. They are probably waiting for the 4870 release to try and start saying they have the drivers for their cards even though its been there since x1000 serious they are just as capable but anyways, bad move by ATI but same with Nvidia its not support and love they want its money nothing else. Look at creative labs they lie and say only xfi can run their new software when that dude released his own modded drivers proving that even the old 5.1live can do exactly the same as xfi its just another way to release another product for more money just greed i tell u its taking over the world.

I want to help testing PhysX on ATI Cards. I have a PowerColor HD3870.

haha i want that driver for my graphic card :'(!!!!!

or at least teach us how to tweak it ^^ jajajaja
really amazing stuff

congrats.

We have a the full range of ATi cards in stock, I'll test for you if you like, look me up on xtremesystems and PM it.

hey..Reg I have 4850 and this would be great to have..if this is legit would you mind if i donate a sample.. i would donate money but i seen what happened with the creative fiasco..

Do release it, and don't lock down the usable cards list. I'd very much like to give this a shot on my new 4850 as well. Given the lack of usefulness of PhysX, at least so far, I can't imagine sitting down and hacking at it for long just to remove a 3870/4870 lockout.

Arklon read corectly he can make the driver running on 4xxx series,Regeneration just he need to test them first

Guys how do you test this ? I dont get any Radeon physx option in vantage .

Wow this is going to be awesome....I reckon ATI's cards will be computationally much stronger than Nvidias and will really kick butt with the physx scores....Really hilarious stealing Nvidias software and beating them at their own game

Hi Regen! My Respect to You and the things You do for us!
AMD might be fools due to their politics, but I'm the real fan of ATI cards due to their performance
I've a pair of HIS HD 3850 IceQ3 TurboX 512MB with modified BIOSes. They run @ 850/2100 in CrossFire. And I really wish to dedicate one of them to PhysX acceleration. I would be proud to become a beta tester, if You need any help like that. Please post when (if) possible your modded drivers with some info what to do - I'll do all that I can... and I believe other ATI fans will do the same.

Long live Radeons!

any way that on 8800 series it will work too?

WE WILL PWN YOU FOR THIS! HA HA HA HA HA.....

Good Luck and may the moding go well!

Always nice to see people break the mould for the betterment of the rest of the people. Really paying it forward man !!

An 8800 series? By nVidia? Aren't they the ones making the drivers for it?

Now wait for AMD to send you a hoochie with a 4870/4850 Quad fire system in a limbo. Also some huge advertising deal to make your website some some sweet $$$.

Rege, r u gonna make drivers for HD2xxx serie? ;-) It could be really appreciated :-) If u want i can test ur drivers too. Anyway, when i had x300se i was always downloading and using ngo ati drivers. That's a big pity that you finished modding catalysts on 7.3 release and i'm very glad with u that u came back to modding radeon drivers.

I really want to help u as much as i can and if u want my help just tell a word... in here, in comment or in pm.




WTF?! Go pwn urself. And u know what? I will never buy your products again! Geforce 6600gt had to be something like wow and etc but it was only 10-15% better than radeon x300se, i tested it on my own for my own money and it was biggest waste of money in my life!!! I will say it once again and maybe many times again: GO PWN URSELF NVIDIA!!!!!!!!!


Or nah, just don't do anything, just clients will pwn u!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha :-)

OMFG! I must make this point now. Regeneration - if you hacked this yourself you are amazingly pro and deserve ATI to throw free money at you!

Any intension to make ngoHQ supporting intel stuff?
Kinda feel mad when i found this site and why i haven't picked any ATI cards rather then this stupid X3100.
Anyway Nice site you've got there (Added to my bookmark)

Can someone tell AMD to sell You a 4xx0 card

As I know ATi works on Havoc support. So, maybe that's the answer ATi doesn't like Rege's stuff

Great work guys !

Will be interesting once you get your hands on a 4870 to see how much better performance the newer generation cards can be. Amazing that the old 3850 can produce 33% less score than the 9800GTX!

Eagerly awaiting any updates you produce

How about releasing the source under a copyleft license so this can actually get moving?

Isnt this Illegal ? Couldnt NVIDIA sue NgoHq for something like this ? Physx is after all Their software and their technology since they bought Ageia....

it's disgraceful that nvidia haven't released the G80 physx drivers when somebody who doesn't even work for them has already enabled them to work with an ATI card.

you should really stick it to nvidia and beat them to it!

Nvidia is rumored to be making the 8800 series of GPU PhysX enabled some time next month from what i have read on the web

Nvidia have said publicly that they are making cuda/physx free to all in an attempt to get uniformity so I don't really see how they can complain.

I'm sure that it is only political that then Amd/Ati announced they were in talks with Havoc/Intel regarding cpu physics on Amd processors and the possible future of ati gpu havoc physics.

We've all seen with Ageia's dedicated PPU that physics is much better on a dedicated card than on a cpu and I think its highly likely that the same will apply when comparing gpu physics to cpu physics.....Consequently Ati did not want to hand domination of the best physics platform ie gpu physics to nvidia on a plate as they would have if they had just adopted nvidia's cuda phsyx.

My guess is AMD/ATI will not give him any cards to ensure they are completely seperated from this. If they are seen to have helped out in any way, they will open themselves up to potential lawsuits.

I am sure they are secretly cheering this on and wishing they could help out. But they cannot.

How download driver modified for radeon 3800 ????

One other concern...this has been done on a 3850 card...many people are assuming it will work on the 3870 and 3870X2 and crossfire setups....can we have some confirmation on this...as the owner of a 3870X2 I'm very eager to clarify this especially as I'm considering a quad XfireX 2X 3870X2 setup as well. Infact if this works out this will probably push me into getting the extra 3870X2 card its gonna be awesome.

Not released at the moment...will be soon hopefully.

Well, until we see some real proof, this is all just smokes and mirrors.

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sorry for all the posts but I'm excited about this and thinking of all the possiblities....


In all the info about nvidia cuda physx I'm aware that they were stating that you could have a mixed sli and physx setup ie say fro example you could have quad sli with two 9800gx2's and in the third slot you could put a different nvidia card such as 8800gtx not sli'ed to the graphics rig but running as a dedicated physx card.

Just wondering if you had more that 2 slots could you have quad crossfire with two 3870x2's and in the third slot put a 3850 not crossfired but as a dedicated physx card?

Good work Rege !
Hope AMD/ATi will stop seeing NGOHQ as a threat and start working with you closely again.
Keep it up!

Yeah, keep up the good work, and thx alot

At last s.th 1 of my 2 3870 can do when I get a 4870x2 end of the year

Cheers!!!!

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Is this going to be a complete driver or am I going to be able to use this as a sort of addon?

The nvidia cuda physx driver release was a sort of an addon for their 177series graphics driver

NVIDIA made the Physx extentions free for all GAME MANUFACTURERS ( To enable for more titles to support Physx ) and NOT GPU manufacturers. That alone is a HUGE difference than hacking drivers to make them work on an rival company card. Im sure NVIDIA will take the necessary steps to protect not only their best interests but all those who have NVIDIA cards and all those who have either payed for a Geforce 8-9-GTX card or will pay to get one.

LOL. Do I feel the anger in you my young Padawan ? Anger is bad, leads to the dark side.
Don't be selfish and let ATi kick NV's @ss in the one-on-one fight without handicaps

The only way that physics implementation will ever work is if the technology is unified and standerdised and nvidia knows this, they cant make manufacturers pick and choose between who's physics api is going to be supported, they know if they dont make this available to everyone then it will never work and will just turn into dead tech

Sorry but you are wrong...infact its probably the other way around....they would encourage hardware manufacturers to support it by making it free for them so that it would become the dominant platform and then allow games developers to use it for a license fee....you see its needs to be an almost universally accepted standard before game developers will start supporting it. Anyway don't just believe me read it here

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...7737&Itemid=65

hmm nice move imm sure that in due time everyone will have their answer, as there are larger playes and stakes ppl got burnt for less.

kudos to reg on this project

Makes no sense at all for NVIDIA to spend millions to aquire AGEIA only to make the Physx API available to ATI. Time will tell however and if NVIDIA goes legal about this driver hack i am sure we will know for sure and i am sure that they will since this is a very big addition to the Geforce cards.

As for ATI kicking NVIDIAs @ss...With what ? Their fastest card is a lot slower than both the 9800GX2 and the GTX280...So good luck with that.

GPUs are expensive. We understand you can't just go drop $200 randomly here and there LOL. We also don't fully know the licensing restrictions Nvidia has on PhysX so we aren't clear on AMD's reasons for not giving you one yet. One thing is certain though: If you don't do this somebody else will. This fact is a given since you've let the world know the possibility is fully there. I'm sure somebody in Eastern Europe is hot on your heels about now LOL.

Thank you for your hard work but you ultimately won't get full recognition for this and that sux.

It makes perfect sense...if they can get Physx accepted by hardware manufacturers as the dominant physics API then they will make huge revenue by selling the licence to game developers for all future games...sounds like a big deal to me and is why they are giving it away free in the short term.

In fact it is more likely that ATi would be more peed off by this than Nvidia. Why do you think they have declined to incorporate CUDA into their cards...simply because they know they would be handing Nvidia their main competitor a huge source of future revenue if physx became the future physic API.

As regards ATi kicking Nvidia...yes your right Nvidia do have the fastest single gpu card in typical graphics operations. (but I dont think they will be able to answer the dual gpu 4870X2 coming in august)...but with physx and other CUDA/GPGPU type computation I think the Ati cards particularly the 4000 series with 800 stream processor may well kick nvidias offerings.

LOL 9800GX2 and GTX280. I wouldn't take one of those if offered + cookies for FREE!

Just out of curiosity, how did AMD tick you off?

By not providing 48x0 samples for review. An infinitely stupid decision.

u r my hero.

I beleive it was primarily by ignoring ngo's requests, but honestly are you suprised? No offence intended but you havent released a ati driver in about a year, if you were them would you really care about a site that has pretty much abandoned their line?

No, it’s not because PR issues but its part of it. Let’s just say they offended me personally.

We will propably see a dual core GTX280 or a better GTX revision by September so i doubt the 4870x2 ( IF there will be one...To cost what ? 500$ ? ) will be much of a success.

Rege..If you want to get back at ATI/Amd I think the best thing you can do is to post this driver...
they obviously don't want Nvidia to be successful with Physx so the more systems out there supporting it the worse for ATi/Amd even if it is using their cards.

Nice try but nvidia aren't exactly saints either. You don't see any 260/280 samples being received here either.

don't keep it for yourself, are you a man ? someone offends you and you throw all this away? good god, show your brilliant work. I'll eat shit if that is what it takes to try this drivers!!!!!!!

Hey there does anybody out there remember dial up modems?! Might seem stunned to bring that up but this seems to be building up to the sort or thing that resembles the K56FLEX vs V.92 standard from many moons ago! US Robotics lost that one...I had to buy a 56FLEX -sad panda-

Or more recently the HD DVD vs Blu Ray battle -although not directly comp related still similar-

It will be interesting to see how the "standard" looks when the dust settles. Will there be one clear winner and loser or will the standard be a blend of the 2? I vote the latter personally but wow what an interesting time to have yer eye on the graphics world

Zyro

I hope this mod will work with my HD2600XT!!! I'm very willing to test if you don't have that hardware! Thank you Regeneration.

Regeneration

What Platforms will your mod support?

I cant wait for you to post the mod :-)
:I am jumping up and down"

Windows XP and Vista (both x32 and x64).

What platforms will your mod work on

I cant wait for you do release it (Jumping up and down with excitement)

wow dead impressed with this news cant wait to try it on my hd3870 x2

Rege, r u gonna make physx for HD2xxx serie too?

I cant wait for the mod to test my slow Hd 3870

good work rege
i hope it will work with 3870x2 without any problems

post videos ffs !!! i cant wait anymore !!

If you can do this, can you get PhysX working on my G80 8800GTS 640? I don't know if I already can with drivers or something, I'm just asking.

you can reach me at blazehammer@gmail.com if you want to email me (please do!)

any chance this will work on a x1950?

leave him alone so he can work on the drivers.

ahahahahah oh man this comments are so fun xD

Dont forget us WinXP users, looks like that Screenie is in Vista... Dont Forget Vista is not the best choice for gamming ATM (Since all dx10 games run in Xp Anyway) if its a tech limit thats fine, just dont forget us

GREAT JOB REGE!! If they'd ship me my 4870 I bought yesterday, I'd gladly test it for you. Don't lock out 48x0 - I bet there are enough people out there that will test for you.

I can't wait to see this PhysX on my HD3850! You are helping a lot doing this