|  | | PowerColor Releases Radeon HD 3850 AGP |
Powercolor's HD 3850 PCS for PCI-Express works at 720 MHz for the core and 900 MHz for memory (1800 MHz effective). The AGP version works at more modest 668 MHz for the core and 828 MHz (1656 MHz effective) for 512MB of GDDR3 memory. Unlike the PCI-Express version, this card lacks Crossfire connectors, and has a heatsink that covers memory modules. Read More
Last edited by Regeneration; January 4th, 2008 at 02:58 AM..
| | | | 16 Comments | | | Well cool for AGP users I guess but one question looms here and if I get my hands on a Powercolor HD3850 here. Why is there no heat spreader or heatsinks on the ram WTF  |
Last edited by Mac Daddy; January 4th, 2008 at 03:17 AM..
| Quote | | | | | definetly looksl ike it needs a new cooler but now im tempted to get a good cooler for my cpu, oc the living daylights out of it and pop one of these in lol | | | | If I were buying a HD3850 I would not hesitate to get this.
HIS HD3850 with 512MB vram and IceQ 3 Cooling Technology | | | | | | I don't want to do a full upgrade i.e. agp to pci-e till a certain flight sim by Ubisoft/Oleg Maddox comes out sometime this autumn.
But would moving from a 7800 GS+ (G71 Core) to a HD 3850 AGP be an improvement?
Thanks for any responses. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabout  I don't want to do a full upgrade i.e. agp to pci-e till a certain flight sim by Ubisoft/Oleg Maddox comes out sometime this autumn.
But would moving from a 7800 GS+ (G71 Core) to a HD 3850 AGP be an improvement?
Thanks for any responses. | First off welcome to NGOHQ.com 
I think any improvement would be slight. From the 7800 GS to the HD3850AGP you gain 512 mem as opposed to 256 and some core speed but you are also limited to AGP x 8. With your CPU as well you will probably experience a bottle neck as I did.
Basic Mobo's with PCIE support are about 1/2 to 1/4 of the price of what the PCIE x 16 version of these cards are worth and the AGP version will be more expensive
More info on both cards: http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/319/ http://www.powercolor.com/Global/pro...ProductID=1730 | | | | Thanks for the welcome and the advice | | | | No one should be giving any serious consideration to ATI AGP cards until they get the AGP support back on track. There are just too many problems in the drivers for way too long already.
Omegadriver (Angel) has resorted to using an older file to make AGP workable again on his latest release for XP. | | | | Jabout, the thing here is that PCIe is not fully utilized by todays cards, their getting close but not quite, the majority of cards cannot fully utlize the 2.1gb/s of agp 8x let alone the 4gb/s of the pcie, so the slot really doesnt limit the cards speed (its the industry's best kept secret) Your cpu isnt half bad really, ive got this old system tweaked out to play anything out there at max settings so im sure you could get yours to get you by for another year or two without any issues, if you dont have the cash for a new system then work with what you have is what i always say. | | | | I'll upgrade whenever the new flight sim comes out, I'm putting it off because of the hassel factor rather than the cash factor.
I just thought the new Radeon might be a simple upgrade from the 7800 GS+, because it has so many transistors (666 million?)
However, the 7800 GS+ has 24 pipelines and goes like stink!
I have it clocked at Core 515 & Memory 751 | | | | well the 3850 will outperform the 7800, and honestly if your just ugrading for the sake a flight sim theres no point, you could probably run it maxed out with your current rig | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabout Thanks for the welcome and the advice | You are most welcome and Dyre touched on a good point concerning recent ATI AGP issues with drivers. The others have as well.
Don't rush your purchase prices will come down too on everything. I personally still feel PCI-E would be a better choice and last you longer because AGP is being phased out  | | | | no doubt pcie is a better choice for the long run but right now it offeres no real benefit, so there is no point in upgrading a whole board/cpu/memory just for the sake of getting a pcie card assuming you can makde do with the setup you have now, which you really could
dual core is nice but in reality unless your willing to spend alot of money on the high end dual cores all your doing is trading one strong core for two weak cores, depending on what you have anyways | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by blindartist no doubt pcie is a better choice for the long run but right now it offeres no real benefit, so there is no point in upgrading a whole board/cpu/memory just for the sake of getting a pcie card assuming you can makde do with the setup you have now, which you really could
dual core is nice but in reality unless your willing to spend alot of money on the high end dual cores all your doing is trading one strong core for two weak cores, depending on what you have anyways | But what is this member asking the question going to gain by changing to the HD3850 AGP on his system? | | | | | | he's gonna gain some gaming performence and another year or two of use out of his system, the slot isnt limiting him, his cpu isnt half bad, he would be spending 3x that atleast to upgrade the whole thing so if money is an issue then upgrading the whole rig is really not nesissary, i mean if he can afford to buy a new system then cool go for it but if money is an issue then its a bit of a waste to upgrade it all if you ask me, just my opinion | |
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