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Our Official Response to NVIDIA
Posted by Regeneration on July 5th, 2007, 11:05 PM

This is an official response to NVIDIA’s Unauthorized Distribution of NVIDIA Drivers on NGOHQ.com letter. Our servers are based in Israel. If you’re unaware, Israel is not a state in the United States. Israel is a small country in the Middle East. Therefore, the United States Copyright law and Section 106 do not apply here. This specific law applies only inside the United States borders.

Drivers for GPUs and MCPs are being offered freely by NVIDIA Corporation and millions of web-sites around the globe. If Guru3D, DriverHeaven, Techconnect Magazine, Laptopvideo2Go, Softpedia, DriverZone, FileForum and many other sites are allowed to distribute ForceWare and nForce drivers, then we don’t see any reason to remove it.

Our local law (Huk Zhoyot Yuzrim, 1911) permits us to distribute copyright software as long it’s intended for private/educational purposes and no-commercialism is involved. The software available in NGOHQ.com is being offered to the public free of charges. We are not charging money for the files or bandwidth, and no commercialism is involved with the distribution. The software available here is intended for home users and their private use. Therefore, the site fully complies with the local law (Huk Zhoyot Yuzrim, 1911).

We are offering drivers and free software; we are not distributing licensed software. Since no law is being violated, NGOHQ.com is fully complaint with the local law. You have no base for you accusations and you can’t threaten us with your own laws. Also, there is no DMCA law in our country. How come million sites are hosting your drivers, and we are the only one to receive legal threats?

Our modified software does not include code-level modification, only installation script modifications (INF) which is Windows script file. The installation script is not a part of the driver itself and NVIDIA Corporation cannot claim copyright ownership on these kinds of files. NGOHQ.com is providing notifications to the users and letting them know that the software is not being supported by NVIDIA Corporation. The user acknowledges that he’s/she is using the software at their own risk. You have no rights to claim ownership on installation scripts.

NGOHQ.com is fully legal and follows its state laws and Huk Zhoyot Yuzrim, 1911. NVIDIA’s drivers are being distributed on millions of web-sites on the internet. This attempt to force NGOHQ.com removal of this software is nothing but an attempt to continue the abuse toward NGOHQ.com. From our investigations, it seems that NVIDIA Corporation hasn’t sent this legal threat to anyone except NGOHQ.com.

From million of sites, NGOHQ.com is the only site who received legal threats. The real motive behind NVIDIA’s action is surely not the protection of their consumers, but to abuse NGOHQ.com due to unknown reasons.

We are modifying ‘driver .INF file’ because you’re using your software illegally as a tool to promote your new products. You’re removing INF file support for older product generations to promote your new products illegally, and using your drivers as tool for psychological warfare on your customers. Your actions are violating the United States Antitrust laws & Huk Hahegbliim Haiskiim Haisraeli and consumer rights. You’re also making false advertisements by claiming your software is Unified Driver Architecture, while it’s not.

NVIDIA is required to ensure that their products are working, and the software is bug-free. Instead of working on your drivers, you’re ignoring issues, requests and customer’s rights by dropping support and playing software tricks with them. The consumers are suffering in both desktop/mobile platforms because of your abusive tactics.

Without these ‘modified drivers’, your customers would file class actions against you. Your users are downloading drivers from our site because you fail to satisfy them, and you ignore them (Unfriendly control panel, Known 7800 GS issues and more)

This is not the first time that NVIDIA is trying to abuse this site. About a year ago, they sent another legal threat and requested to remove a patch that was made by Asrock. A few months ago one of their PR agents contacted their OEM partners and asked them not to provide samples, cooperation and support to NGOHQ.com, in-order to drive it out of business and to abuse this site, illegally. While NVIDIA is providing review samples and cooperation to other related sites to promote them, all we get is abuse, abuse, abuse and more abuse, and that’s after we provide support for their customers for free and from good will.

There is a very limited amount of websites who offer the same services for free. We don’t ask for anything in return but respect. Instead of providing us support, review samples, information and briefings, NVIDIA is sending us legal threats and abuse. Not only you’re not helping us, but you’re abusing us, yes! your own support site.

There is very a limited amount of sites like NGOHQ.com, and instead of supporting them, like you do with normal hardware sites, you’re abusing them, treating them without any respect and sending them ridiculous legal threats.

NVIDIA is working closely with our competitors. They are allowing them to host this kind of files, they are providing them betas to host, they are providing them review samples to promote their sites. Maybe NVIDIA is unaware to the US Antitrust laws, but we have all rights to provide competition in this area.

If NVIDIA is trying to take us out to promote their friends/our competitors, then NVIDIA is violating the US Antitrust Laws by preventing us from providing competition. We are allowed to offer competition if they like it or not. NVIDIA must respect open market, even if its website business. We have all rights to offer competition to the other sites, and we have all rights to offer ForceWare mirrors as well, like our competitors.

NGOHQ.com is providing unofficial support for its readers for free. If its software, tools, guides, reviews, information, drivers and news. NGOHQ.com is acting as an unofficial NVIDIA and ATI/AMD supporter on voluntary basis. We are providing help and support for you customers for FREE. We are providing workarounds and information for your customers as good will. We are not charging them for any fees and we don’t ask anything for return.

Our site and downloads section are very popular among your customers. These free downloads are consuming a massive amount of bandwidth and we have to pay for this bandwidth from our own pockets (18000-25000GB per month). We are also providing free bandwidth by mirroring these drivers, without quotes or any unpleasant content. We never received any kind of appreciation from NVIDIA about our hard work, these free services we are offering.

NGOHQ.com hasn’t violated any local law, the only ones who did violate, is NVIDIA with their continued abuse, harassment and attempts to drive NGOHQ.com out of business illegally. We will not remove the software; it is fully legally with our local law, while NVIDIA is violating the United States Antitrust Laws & Huk Hahegbliim Haiskiim Haisraeli by preventing us from running. If NVIDIA will continue abusing, harassing and illegally forcing their OEMs not to work with us, we will have no choice but to take legal actions against NVIDIA for Antitrust and Discrimination Violations.

We will also make sure to fill a complaint in the US DOJ regarding your abuse and possible antitrust violations. We will also tell them about the following:

* Possible use of illegal blackmail tactics against the press.
* Possible use of illegal The Way It's Meant To Be Played program to gain unfair advantage and abuse the open market.
* Possible use of illegal false advertisement.
* Possible use of illegal viral marketing campaigns.
* Possible use of software support being used as tool to promote sales illegally.
* Possible Antitrust Violations against the state, consumers, press and your competitors.

NGOHQ.com reserves the right to offer competition and to offer support for FREE. Your claims are baseless and pointless. NGOHQ.com has the tools and rights to protect and defend itself, and even to attack if necessary. We’re not scared of you; we can fight back, so do not underestimate us.

We prefer to deny access to US rather then removing free software from our site. If Guru3D, Driver Heaven, Techconnect Magazine, Laptopvideo2Go, Softpedia, DriverZone and FileForum are hosting these files, we will continue doing so, and if NVIDIA tries to prevent us from offering competition, we will be forced to fill a Discrimination and Antitrust lawsuit against them, and use their own laws against them. We would like to finish this response with the following quote:

"Feel free to distribute and endorse Catalyst software. Just please let your users know that if they use modified drivers we aren't able to support them properly. Keep up the good work in the community." -AMD/ATI

Last edited by Regeneration; July 8th, 2007 at 02:30 AM.

63 Comments
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Originally Posted by Regeneration View Post
.... We would like to finish this response with the following quote:

"Feel free to distribute and endorse Catalyst software. Just please let your users know that if they use modified drivers we aren't able to support them properly. Keep up the good work in the community."
that was a great reply, and that ending was great , just proving them that the are doing things so wrong,unlike AMD/ATI
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That's very well written. The read more link just links to the same page (loop).
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I guess I don't get exactly what nVidia's bitch is, I mean you do label 'em that they're modified and that nVidia doesn't support the drivers.

Besides, if nVidia was really that concerned about it why don't they encrypt the .inf just a touch or hide it in some .dll file or something? They could solve this whole "problem" of theirs very easily doing that instead of using a bloody text file!

Using a text file is like inviting people to modify it, IMHO....and I think that is a good thing. I used to love to play around with nVidia's .inf file to customize 'em for my rig back when I had an nVidia card..
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f*ck nvidia. their products suck anyways.
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I've been coming to this site for about 2 years and never posted anything because I could always find what I was looking for either driver support or good files (modded ones).

I changed along time ago to ATI (3 years ago) and I have my own reasons. Used to have all kinds of Nvidia back when they had Viper or TNT cards, don't remember.

Hope this sites stays up and doing their usual thing and nice response letter back to Nvidia. You got my support and I hope from many others ATI and Nvidia users.

What is a world without competition
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Regeneration, it is your old pal from Canada, SepheronX. I remember when I first talked to you via email, and asked if I could distribute (of course no selling) of your wonderful drivers.

To this day, I have continued to use the drivers you modified in a legal manor. I have continued to support those drivers to others who have asked "what is best way to get great performance and quality in my nvidia cards?".

Nvidia has been picking on you, and I am quite sad to here about it. I know friends and others who would be outraged to hear about such things coming from Nvidia's snatch.

I wish there was something I could do, but you live much too far away for you and I to plot a rebellion against Nvidia, and I don't think there is much to be said in Canada, but if you need any help in anything, I am willing to give a hand.

Nvidia are dogs, and even if I have had good runs with my modified 7900gs xt, I am quite sick and disappointed right now in even using it. Maybe the switch to ATI for future games will be best for me, cause at least they play fair.

I hope for the best of NGO, and would hate to see the fall of it, but I don't think Nvidia will have the power to do so, cause they did indeed violate many acts.

Just a note though, don't repeate the line " There is very a limited amount of sites" as you mentioned it twice, just mention it once. If you want to make the point cross, simply bold and italic it (underline if have too).
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Good response , and the ending line says it all .
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Are you guys really based in Israel?

ATI > NVIDIA My new ATI graphics card pwns my old NVIDIA one, runs smoother and is VIVO+HDCP without costing more than 200 USD.
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Well, judging that Reg is from Israel, and he is soul owner of the website, that my best guess the site is based in Israel. :P
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