How Would You Interpret this Diagram?

Dyre Straits · June 2nd, 2009, 06:03 AM

Take a close look and give me your thoughts on it....

daz · June 2nd, 2009, 08:57 AM

emmmm take the jumpers off for 400mhz ?

mkey · June 2nd, 2009, 09:08 AM

I'm curious and disoriented at the same time. Pretty much like when reaching an orgasm lol

Anyway, from this image I'm assuming that if you would overclock this board, you would have to change the jumpers. But why does it show a range of frequencies? It's like if you wanted the FSB on 300MHZ, you would need to set the jumpers to third position.

Here you can see exact frequency steps, not ranges. Which, for me, makes even less sense.

How are the jumpers set now?

Maybe the keyword is "can". This might mean that the same thing you do from BIOS you can do in hardware. But which setting takes precedence?

daz · June 2nd, 2009, 09:37 AM

ok i just dug out my old m/b manual asrock k7nf2 and it same . cant take a pic as i have no cam but this is wat it says ...the setting of the CPU front side bus frequency of this motherboard is buy means of the adjustment of jumper-setting.You must set FSB jumper according to your AMD CPU before you use the "Manual" option as the FSB setting in BIOS setup to perform overclocking. Please folow the figures above to set the CPU front side bus fequency .

Dyre Straits · June 2nd, 2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mkey

I'm curious and disoriented at the same time. Pretty much like when reaching an orgasm lol

Anyway, from this image I'm assuming that if you would overclock this board, you would have to change the jumpers. But why does it show a range of frequencies? It's like if you wanted the FSB on 300MHZ, you would need to set the jumpers to third position.

Here you can see exact frequency steps, not ranges. Which, for me, makes even less sense.

How are the jumpers set now?

Maybe the keyword is "can". This might mean that the same thing you do from BIOS you can do in hardware. But which setting takes precedence?

That is absolutely WHY I posted this image. It's a straight scan right from the manual.

Here's what I found out the hard way:

My E6700's default is 266x10 = 2.66 GHz. I believe everyone understands that part.

I just picked up this motherboard last week and, unlike the many other motherboards I've seen over the past 3 years or so, this one DOES have Jumpers that have to be used to set the correct -- OR overclocked frequencies.

Since, in the past, I've been able to overclock this CPU easily to 3.2 GHz, after checking the manual's instructions, I assumed that, if I wanted to adjust the FSB anywhere from 266 - 333 MHz, I would have to place the jumpers as shown in the 3rd setting that shows "266-333 MHz". Wouldn't you also assume that's what it means?

Well, that is NOT what is done with these settings. As soon as I booted up the PC, I saw this for the CPU:

"333 FSB x 10; 3333 MHz"

AND, yes, the speed of the POST was extremely fast!! So fast that, before I could do anything....as I was really kind of in shock at the moment....the PC booted up into Windows 7 without delay.

BUT, this setting ended up corrupting the HDD and the system would not boot back into Windows 7 even after resetting the jumpers to the next lower setting. After resetting the system's clock to defaults, I was able to run a Repair and get back up into Windows 7.

Not only was the FSB set to 333 MHz, 333 MHz was the SLOWEST setting I could use in the BIOS under the CELL options. The settings went all the way up to the 7xx range but no lower than 333 MHz. I kept trying to get it back down to 266 AS IS SHOWN IN THAT GRAPH and it did NOT exist! Not until I reset the jumpers on the board.

People with this board, and using this manual, are going to run a big risk of using settings that are not safe and likely not even know why the system is messing things up.

But, now that I know what's going on, maybe I can actually do a little overclocking with this board but, I'm going to have to proceed very cautiously.

mkey · June 2nd, 2009, 10:14 AM

So, you need to set on a low and safe value via jumper and then increase from the bios?

Rather strange behavior. Why did you buy a MSI board, anyway?

Also, never assume anything

Of course, I'm full of shit, I would probably do the same thing.

Dyre Straits · June 2nd, 2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mkey

So, you need to set on a low and safe value via jumper and then increase from the bios?

Rather strange behavior. Why did you buy a MSI board, anyway?

Also, never assume anything

Of course, I'm full of shit, I would probably do the same thing.

My previous board was also MSI and, although it was my first MSI board, I actually did like it. I simply wore it out doing upgrades and stuff...especially video cards. Also, they do provide decent updates for BIOS and Drivers, too.

But, this will likely be my last MSI board when it's time to upgrade again...or if this one goes to dust.

mkey · June 2nd, 2009, 10:26 AM

I had seen many MSI boards dying or having some weird issue or the other. Never owned one, but whenever I see a machine with MSI mobo I think two times before touching anything.

For instance, MSI boards with integrated sound/video cards that can't be reinstalled after a clean windows install even though the worked OK only a few hours ago.

Of course, I'm speaking of cheaper range boards. Just as a comparison, I have installed loads of Gigabyte low end boards and never had problems with any of them.

Wougz · June 2nd, 2009, 11:44 AM

i've bought a MSI P43 NeoF and same think with it ! But in my case, i can't change the FSB frequency in the bios !
it's not realy important because i've install an E6550. (multiplier x7) 400x7 => 2800. and the processor can handle more.
But anyway that's weird ! using jumper for OC. And even the bios is weird, i prefer Gigabyte or Asus.
it was my firt MSI motherboard and i think it will be the last :/

screenager · June 2nd, 2009, 06:11 PM

hmmm i'm not sure.
the manual on my asrock P45R2000 is better to understand then this.