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Catalyst [Decent drivers][Modded]
Old 15 June 2010, 03:32   #1
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History of this modified driver was never to perform good, but to get back what is not working and after 10-15 builds now and separation on CFX/Multiple display setups I can finally say everything is working pretty well as long you choose a correct screw driver to your set. CFX and multiple display builds are very very deep modified (however NONE of the official files are changed from their default, but multiple different Catalyst versions were compined to an functional 'on all occasions fastest solution' was used).

* 'REAL' CFX seems to be no issue and works just fine with all single card drivers like 10.6, but the HDXXXXx2 cards CFX will not work properly through these so those simply has to settle to the multiple monitor drivers.

* new builds v3.49 and v3.50:
- v3.49 builds are based on 'newest possible modules' in single monitor side also newest possible driver.
- v3.50 builds are old known good modules & drivers only.

NOTE: Clean-up is now v3. It should be run as instructed after you have uninstalled & rebooted.
There is also an 'Bug in the clean-up' noticed straight after I send it, bug is very small.
* It opens 'notepad' in end of clean-up supposedly opening 'Manual_cleanup_entries.log' (sadly, it should be on same folder and I
changed logs location to LOGS\ forgot to change it.), but I'd say that's pretty minor you can open the log file yourself.
SOLUTION: I added small separated 'EXTRAS' update on end of download links. Download that and extract > overwrite to folder where you extract the driver package.

Current Release Information, Changes Log & Common Issues Resolution:

* Full Information
* Full Changes Log[SIZE="4"]

* OpenGL 4.0 under condition
- Absolute Maximum Clocks of cards could draw badly.
SOLUTION: Drop the clocks or simply run the OpenGL application again seems to correct this issue. It is some temporal thing.
* IDLE clocks are high
SOLUTION: Reset the clocks to default and you'll hardware will use normal IDLE clocks. (This ain't an bug it's an feature to keep multiple monitors up
and running and fixable by simply stock clocks)
* My Catalyst Control Panel is slow:
SOLUTION: remove/disable the 'active NVIDIA display' from Windows 'Screen Resolution'-window and restart catalyst. This happens when
there is an monitor by NVIDIA (as adviced on full slideshow instructions on NVIDIA side ONLY). Problem is Catalyst doesn't have a clue what it's dealing with.
* I got BSOD after removing drivers & using Clean-up
SOLUTION: Remember to thank ATI Driver team & AMD/NVIDIA Northbridge for it. (There is nothing else in here than official uninstallation process.)
you might wanna check topic 'AMD Northbridge filter driver hasto be updated with catalyst'.
* I got BSOD after Installing 'your' drivers after login
SOLUTION: this happens IF an windows desktop driver is updated from or to specific driver versions from specific earlier installation you had. This is
normal behavior of system when it has to update desktop display and it is locked as your system logged in too fast for it to update it before login
where it would of supposed to be updated. (Check topic: 'Windows Degraded graphic card utilization' carefully)
* My card powerplay is screwed up and now in games the clock switches because ATI 3D detection isn't working correctly (grey screens)
SOLUTION: Use an 3rd party tool like 'MSI Afterburner'(or overdrive) and overclock some amount this tool has an bug that it will change all clock values and
voltages. So, there is no possiblity that IDLE clock goes so low inside the game that it would 'bug'/crash the display driver because of it, if you want
hardcore 1o1 method edit your '%LOCALAPPDATA%\ATI\ACE\profiles.xml' all Want_0,1,2 values to match 'Want_2' values under 'Overdrive5' for each card in computer.
* 'Windows Degraded graphic card utilization' (this is a new concept)
SOLUTION: This is probably hardest problem you can get, but EVERYONE gets it. To fix it you need to reboot windows so many times you hear your graphic card reactivate (usually it's 3 reboots in new drivers). This is affect when something shakes the Windows 'WinSAT' / Stability overall where here we shake it big time. Sadly this is not an 'driver' issue it is an windows and hardware stability issue.




Driver Removal Process - Uninstalling (Remove old crap out):

This saves you 1-2 Reboots:
* If you uninstall NVIDIA drivers also(as you should) > go to device manager after uninstall(don't reboot) > scan for new devices > (you can uninstall also ATI stuff before rebooting >) when found then reboot
* Prefer uninstalling NVIDIA Drivers & PhysX first.

1. Remove All NVIDIA & ATI software (as usual from control panel > 'Programs and Features')
CRITICAL: MAKE SURE your 'device manager' says 'Standard VGA Display Adapter' on all ATI and NVIDIA cards, if not:
- remove driver & driver files
- 'scan for hardware changes'
(Do this so many times/long that it does says 'Standard VGA Display Adapter'. Happens, if you have updated over in the past. This action might introduce BSOD, if not done correctly or specific 'bad driver version' is inside the system.)
2. reboot
3. Use 'ati_****_cleaner_v3.cmd' 1 time AFTER reboot. READ the guide inside. (DO NOT REBOOT - Just continue to installation.)
NOTE:
* You will need to run this .cmd as admin rights (as otherwise it cannot clean service/driver level keys).
* Clean up file now saves you 'cleanup.log' which includes all 'possible removable entries'. They will no longer be printed on 'Command Prompt'-screen.


ATI Side - Driver Installation:

1. Install ATI drivers (as usual Catalyst install with 'setup.exe' inside 'genetix_<version>\'-folder, You can choose as usual which ever components you like to add/remove)
NOTE #1 (ATI Stream):
if ATI stream is saying 'cannot find suitable GPU will only run on CPU' this is incorrect it will function through GPU so answer YES to install anyway, it will work.
NOTE #2 (Install errors):
If there is an 'warning' in end of installation (the ugly yellow thing). never mind that it's just fine.
2. Reboot / Restart [IF You DO NOT have NVIDIA Adapter, if you do go to NVIDIA Install instructions directly]

NVIDIA Side - Driver Installation

1. Install NVIDIA Driver/Forceware v257.21 x86/x64 or v258.49 x86/x64 or v258.69(Extract with WinRAR & use ONLY with PhysX_9.10.0223_SystemSoftware) x86/x64 (v258.69 + PhysX 9.10.0223 = Recommended because correct GPU/Memory usage detection)
2. reboot
3. Install PhysX Hybrid Mod 1.04ff.
4. Open 'Screen Resolution'-window > Do following slideshow (to Step 5 = PhysX OK with applications, All the Steps = OpenCL Functionality & Fix Memory Utilization detection also):


Quote:
Originally Posted by Special note for Crossfire + NVIDIA adapter Systems
This is important (and VERY tricky) while you run on this kinda systems, that you understand what 'Catalyst' can understand & where it doesn't
have a clue what's happening. To have functional OpenCL/GPU/Memory utilization functions you MOST have active display (deactive if only PhysX
is needed). Means that with 'PhysX Hybrid Mod 1.04ff' with no adapter you need to do following to be able to switch CFX ON/OFF and multiple display modes:

REMEMBER to press 'Apply' after between each step! (or otherwise some of functions won't show at all in 'Screen Resolution'-window)

DO before using Catalyst to Control CFX / MultiScreens:
1. Open the 'Screen Resolution'-window, if there is an 'display' for NVIDIA == Do not touch CFX / Screen setups for ATI. Instead 'Disable' NVIDIA Adapter so it goes 'Black'. (Show only Display 1 & 2 / 'CFX/ATI'-displays)
2. Click on the 'Black' NVIDIA display('Display Device on VGA' is the Display name, if you followed above 'GPU Usage'-information/with 'fake' adapters) And press from 'Multiple Displays' 'remove this display'.
NOTE: Now Display 'black' should vanish
3. Open 'Start Menu' > 'Catalyst Control Center' > 'Restart CCC Runtime'
4. and NOW you are ready to change CFX / Multiscreen configs for ATI.

Slideshow:


to get OpenCL, GPU/Memoru Utilization on NVIDIA card(s) back etc. Follow this Slideshow:
Slideshow of Images 'HOWTO' (Do only to 'step 5' to get PhysX only, all the way to get everything.):


NOTE: Do not worry about PhysX on this (I know it was/is a bit tricky). PhysX is there in every one of these configs for Multiscreen/Crossfire with
out tampering around. It will stick, if setup one time good (As explained on NVIDIA driver section).

----Download Links----

WinRAR NOTE: WinRAR has 255 character bug. So, if you can't open try extracting it to 'C:\ATI\' or other small path instead of where the RAR file is. This is simply bug in new winrar versions.


Patch <anydriver> to v3.50 - [Works with all official Catalyst v10.3b->v10.6 drivers installed already]:

NOTE:
- This driver patch can be used with v10.3b->v10.6 WHQL and is not system/monitor dependent, but patch itself was developed to work higher in gaming with v10.5a.
- v10.6 should only be used with 'Single Card'-setups (including HDXXXXx2 cards they are still a 'Single Card'-setups).
- Patch does not need reboots to apply.

x86/32-bit & x64/64-bit:
Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 31.57 MB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: 4ce33078eb2cabf8e6d27b79f00f3605



Single Monitor Setups:

Final Build v3.50 10.6 beta(v8.742.0) base driver - [11.07.2010] - [Single Monitor Setups] - [Verified Build]:

x86 / 32-bit:
Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 68.23 MB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: 64e7a82d3956abdd35759754725e563b

x64 / 64-bit:
Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 102.04 MB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: eea6741c87191c179abcdf75c743a961


Final Build v3.49 10.6 WHQL base driver - [11.07.2010] - [Single Monitor Setups] - [Verified Build]:

x86 / 32-bit:
Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 68.22 MB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: f684e2329aea1c88966cb071d961884b

x64 / 64-bit:
Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 102.13 MB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: 818c82cb5e76854b6637dffff8fc529c




Multiple Monitor Setups:

Final Build v3.50 v10.5a base driver - [11.07.2010] - [Multi-Monitor Setups] - [Not Verified build]:

* based on newest files.

x86 / 32-bit:
Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 88.57 MB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: 99110c264a88abb12597825b6ba1e6f3

x64 / 64-bit:
Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 122.39 MB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: 125fa14cbee07dab609bbbdc42d11eb4


Final Build v3.49 v10.5a base driver - [11.07.2010] - [Multi-Monitor Setups] - [Verified Good Build]:

* Based on older still well performing modules.

x86 / 32-bit:
Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 88.57 MB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: 8733f9f2229120fda0013839706aa298

x64 / 64-bit:
Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 122.45 MB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: bc8c64cb18d541707a938a28dd5f1330


----Other Downloads----

OpenGL v1.0-2.0, 3.2, 4.0 - Switcher - [04.07.2010]:

Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 49.94 MB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: 5648b6aab701d594755c36221383653c

Final Build v3.50 - Extras Only - [11.07.2010] - [UPDATED AFTER v3.50 to include x86 WDM side and minor notepad correct open fix]:

Mirror 01 (ZippyShare) - Mirror 02 (MediaFire) - Mirror 03 (SendSpace) --- 281.45 KB - [RAR Archive]
MD5: d67d0601644d80a7fd3a413e3d6bcb9a


----Screenshots----

Benchmark hardware:
ASUS-P5E [x38 Cheap Board]
Q9450 3,6Ghz
DDR2-900Mhz [4-4-4-12]
ASUS ATI HD5850 - 935Mhz/1220Mhz [highest possible OC Stable clocks]
BFG NVIDIA 9800GTX - 792Mhz/1152Mhz [highest possible OC Stable clocks]

Experimental Builds v3.24->v3.40 [generic usage score on highest clocks]:


Final Build v2.72 [highest score possible]:


Final Build v2.67 [highest score possible]:


Final Build v2.57 [highest score possible]:


Official v10.6 WHQL [highest score possible]:



(Original Build Screens)

Full Scale Forceware/Geforce testing:


(Test Setup in all benchmarks)

All Performance tests and CPU utilization tests were performed on exact same equipment/system with 9800 GTX (128 SP old 65nm edition).
NOTE: I made an mistake accidentally had 4 emitters on '257.15 beta' 2 run rounds. However, that shouldn't matter as all tests
were run at same particle count.

Resolution: 1920x1200x60hz
Particle count on all tests: 80000
In each test Core/Shared/Memory clocks were dropped to: 525Mhz/1295Mhz/825Mhz
(to be sure that card is lowest clocks & driver improvement is not about clocks highest-end)


Forceware 196.34 beta:


(2 run rounds to no error exact same setup 5 minute cooling time for card)

CPU Utilization:
lowest: 8
stable: 10-11
highest: 16-17
PhysX bug: 126000 particles
Cons:
* You cannot unattach Display
(or it is extremely hard you would have to disable > Patch > reenable > reboot)


Forceware 197.45 WHQL:



(2 run rounds to no error exact same setup 5 minute cooling time for card)

(Run PhysX patched v1.03 without display attached)

CPU Utilization:
lowest: 7
stable: 9-12
Highest: 15
PhysX bug: 130120 particles
cons:
* Lose ability to see NVIDIA GPU Usage
* Without adapter lose ability to see NVIDIA Memory Usage


Forceware 257.15 beta:


(2 run rounds to no error exact same setup 5 minute cooling time for card)

(Run PhysX patched v1.03 without display attached)

CPU Utilization:
lowest: 7
stable: 9-12
Highest: 15
PhysX bug: 130500 particles
Cons:
* Lose ability to see NVIDIA GPU Usage
* Without adapter lose ability to see NVIDIA Memory Usage

----Couple Words----

NOTE by using these you understand to read the install instructions, that the driver is for testing purposes
only and you are the one who installs them as in you are responsible for your own equipment/hardware.

Friendly advice trust no one on web check yourself, do not relay on someone else writings.

Attached Files
File Type: txt NVIDIA [Optional Driver Versions HOWTO].txt (6.0 KB, 218 views)
File Type: txt changes.txt (19.1 KB, 272 views)
File Type: txt Current Driver Information.txt (2.3 KB, 199 views)

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Old 15 June 2010, 05:05   #2
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We aren't big fans of Guru3D since they censored the word NGOHQ on their site. How about copy & paste the entire post? And if you need webhosting for the drivers - just let me know.
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Old 15 June 2010, 14:32   #3
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#$&& Guru3D, nVidia btches.


Too much trouble for the average gamer... i say its not worth all the trouble, besides your could get BSOD if not done correctly.

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Old 15 June 2010, 15:06   #4
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Well, I don't really give a shit.. where the post is.

It's not the point of the post. That is as said ONLY functional driver & Install Instructions what there is. I am sorry that you are not friends with another OC/Tweaking community, but that is where I wrote the post originally just since it happen to be under my screen, atm.

I can copy the whole damn thing here, if wanted so "no one is forced to go to 'Guru3D'", lol, but just for your concept or G3D there is more than 6 modding sites in my post linked to get content from. I don't understand why would some lame WWW page have anything to do with the point 'How my hardware works'

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I can copy the whole damn thing here, if wanted so "no one is forced to go to 'Guru3D'", lol, but just for your concept or G3D there is more than 6 modding sites in my post linked to get content from. I don't understand why would some lame WWW page have anything to do with the point 'How my hardware works'
Because a few of our forum users are banned in Guru3D. And the page could be inaccessible to them.
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Old 15 June 2010, 16:11   #6
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Ok, fine I will do as you ask as I said I don't really care where it is. I only care that people using equipment on hand has the fastest possible software CORRECTLY setup what hardware companies, atm, doesn't offer.
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How is that now?

I re-sorted the First Post a bit to be suitable for 'ngohq.com' forum style. Other than that there is no issues of any kind people are used to see on ATI as well as NVIDIA setups.
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O might mention that Setup has now been tested on QuadFire HD5970 and every DX9 scales correctly. Just in on fellow testing now that 'CFX scaling' is working GRID, HAWKX etc etc pretty flawless. Sadly DX10-11 is still problematic as driver development of ATI/AMD sucks. So, DX10-11 are in baby feets still (However Fast).

As of, atm, there is not a single problem in either of driver packages. They pretty near works flawless (as long instructions are read and executed correctly).

As for old (driver based) bugs. They are mentioned, if such exists on different packages. However, atm, looking really good only 'random' issue which is a bit 'tricky' would be the multi monitor mouse cursor bug how ever this only happens on incredibly rarely and fix is very simply to click the second/last screen in system on right side (if this even ever happens with these drivers).

-edit-

Also note none of the 'files' are modded.

They are simply proven good editions copied from different catalyst builds tested against new drivers performance to get perfect 'average' result (Which is why instructions are long and cold to teach you hardcore way how it should be done properly).



@DarkLobo

Well, if you want to buy multiple thousand dollar/euros equipment and don't want it to work as it's meant to be functional. It is your lost that doesn't mean everyone has to suffer.

As for me I don't HAVE multiple thousand dollars. I have very low gaming equipment and my equipment works now better than anything out there. So, consider that before you say '2 reboot' setup instructions total with proper notions of 'how to deal with an problem on screen' up is too much work.

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Added after post was added to NGOHQ:

* Added 'OpenGL'-FIX (Check the 'Bugs' section it's to correlate 1 issue)
* Added 'Quick Installation'-guide [for the people who thinks they know everything.]
* Crossfire Guide + Slideshows. [Dummy Guide for 'How do I change & work with Crossfire setup which has an NVIDIA card']

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