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Old April 20th, 2009, 04:04 AM   #11
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Not a fanboy as I have used cards from both camps, but I will toss in two cents.

ATI drivers have gotten better of late, at least compared to the train wrecks they used to put out back in the day. They are not perfect, but they have improved.

On a similar thought, it is rather shabby to use one company as the measuring stick. By saying Nvidia is doing it right it automatically makes ATI wrong. if the tables were reversed and ATI was used as the measuring stick, Nvidia would be coming up short. Something to think about before sitting back and getting smug about it.

Both companies are in the process of making a mess of the graphics front. Instead of working toward a unified structure both companies are trying to push their own versions of stuff. This is bad enough now, but it will get worse. I can foresee a time coming when developers will have to choose which company their game will work on, or have to code it twice to cover the differences. This would not be advantageous to either company and would hurt us, the consumers, the most.

it's bad enough that Intel is trying to crush AMD and making a cluster out of things... we don't need a red/green fiasco, too.
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Old April 20th, 2009, 04:09 AM   #12
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I assure you, I am not being smug about this.

We done tests on both cards and Nvidia in our case consistantly comes out on top, especially in our cases where our code brings out noticable and glaring driver bugs.

Yes, ATI in the past had absolute rubbish OpenGL driver support, but seriously out of personal experience, it seems things have not changed much. Especially in our case. And Linux ATI driver support is even worse.

So really, do we have to live with constant hack/workarounds to compensate for whats clearly ATI's fault, or is driver quality going to be something AMD looks at?
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Old April 20th, 2009, 04:20 AM   #13
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From what I can see, they are working on it. With one exception (that I had) the past several releases have been much better than when I used ATI the last time.

I can't speak for OpenGL as I don't run any games using it. My friends who do still prefer nvidia because of it, though.

Oh, and the smug comment was aimed at you or anyone in particular... usually in a discussion like this the one side is set up to play the strawman and the other side knows it. A single point does not a discussion win last time I checked.

I look forward to the new stuff coming out from both sides, but especially from ATI/AMD. The 48xx series has been awesome, so hopefully the next generation will continue the trend.
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Old April 20th, 2009, 05:24 AM   #14
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They are working on adding new extensions. They are not working at all on fixing anything else, Infact anytime the opengl is criticised on the ATI forums they are closed/deleted.
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