Radeon HD 3870 or XFX8800GT.......????

saikamaldoss · May 21st, 2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by omagic

Now You just try to come out off this with face, for a month you whined about nvidia cards, drivers, whole company and shouted with orgasmic horny voice about ATi 4870 which we realy know nothing about!! For Your info today I checked 9800GX2 + Q9400 +2GB DDR2 = 17200pts at 3Dmark06 and 58fps at Crysis so the links You gaved are some bulls***y Ati fanboy sites. At least now we all know where You get these gosip-MARKETING SLOGANS...For Your info I never visit neither ATI or Nvidia fanboy sites because they are just fooling people, I never say anything untill i check it on my own and You only have head full of some Ati promises... Whats the difference between us? I wait till i see and then say a word, You listen to some marketing-gosips.. Before youll come out with some dozens of numbers just remember HD2900XT, specs of this card were incredible the performance=dissapointing... Number aitn all, construction is more important... Then you shout about DX 10.1 but its all quiet... another Ati's big bomb with tiny blow... Youll be suprised but i like Ati more than nvidia! but look at the market right now:

Nvidia: Owns fastest card 9800GX2, owns fastest single gpu card 9800GTX owns best mid-range 8800GT and also owns best performance-price 9600GT any questions? Yes Ati does have 3 very nice cards 3870x2, 3870, 3850 but they are not enough! I didnt but 2x8800GT because Im fanboy I bough it because now i own faster PC than i would have with any of these Ati cards. If 4870x2 will be realy that good(better than GF cards) I will surely write about it in some of my reviews and if I decide to change GPU i will pay MY hard made money on Ati card;-)...

Dont talk about 2900 k... for a simple reason... they did not have enough TMU and MT/S other stuff.. and u where tellin.. u checked crysis.. i tryed crysis on the very same cards.. on my friends comp with... a 9800GX2 with a dell 32" mon... the res was 1600 and i got 49FPS... so it clearly says u r blufin...

Thats bad.. i never expected this from u

And yes i did say that they cheat with there drivers and even now... i say the same.. no change in that... and i use tweaked drivers all the time.. and i too do tweaking drivers.. dont forget that... i work as a trainer for microsoft and i love tweaking.. so i also know much more than what u know about display drives.. and there is a way to make a driver skip a frame to incerse frame rate and thats what NVIDIA dose allthe time... google it and u will get more info about that...

Ati dont play tricks like that...

Then u can talk about FPS M8

omagic · May 21st, 2008, 08:54 PM

loooool Like i wrote I checked at 1280 same was the test !! can You read?? Stop saying bul**** Im off with this topic because theresnoone to talk with...And the Drivers were known to be bugged but they repaired it so shut up fanboy:-P Talking about tech of GPU's but not knowing that higher resolution means lower FPS + You didnt applied what CPU and memory does You friend have...And AMD will now produce in India so now i know why You love them so much loooool Saikamal The ATI fanboy. ASYou can see theres no new reports about driver bugs...are you better than specialists who test them?? congratulations!! LOW SKILL

See there? 1280 = 51 I had more BUT WAIT 1600 You had more too!! hahahahaha Can You even read?? or You just watch the pictures??!!! You can discredit nvidia as much You want but I just laugh at people-fanboys like You - hahahahahaha

saikamaldoss · May 21st, 2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by omagic

loooool Like i wrote I checked at 1280 same was the test !! can You read?? Stop saying bul**** Im off with this topic because theresnoone to talk with...And the Drivers were known to be bugged but they repaired it so shut up fanboy:-P Talking about tech of GPU's but not knowing that higher resolution means lower FPS + You didnt applied what CPU and memory does You friend have...And AMD will now produce in India so now i know why You love them so much loooool Saikamal The ATI fanboy. ASYou can see theres no new reports about driver bugs...are you better than specialists who test them?? congratulations!! LOW SKILL

See there? 1280 = 51 I had more BUT WAIT 1600 You had more too!! hahahahaha Can You even read?? or You just watch the pictures??!!! You can discredit nvidia as much You want but I just laugh at people-fanboys like You - hahahahahaha

It was ur mistake.. u never mentioned the res.. but wait.. am i seein somthin smoking..

Oh omaga says toms hardware is shit... hay dont tell that M8.. people my talk bad about u...

Crysis @ 1600 gives more FPS ha!!

Check this out...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...w,1792-10.html

omagic · May 21st, 2008, 09:46 PM

Loool pls dont compare antyliasing and without antyliasing!! OMG Do you know what You are saying?? And theres lower FPS on 1600 on the screen You pasted?? You are sleepy or something?

PS doesnt it cocern You that you also had higher FPS?? PLS answer!!

saikamaldoss · May 21st, 2008, 09:48 PM

U can find more info on this page... and dont use ur old trick... sayin u r ATI fanboy and the site is a fanboy site... the hole world is ATI fans club,..... live a better life than lien M8...

http://www.digital-daily.com/video/geforce_9800_gx2

what the 4870 vs 9800GX2 is better than the fact. bcoz it says 52FPS for 9800GX2.. but the real is only 49- 50FPS as i tested... and the other websites say.. lower...

with 4x AA u may loose only 7 to 10 FPS not more...

omagic · May 21st, 2008, 10:00 PM

Hahaha PLS do not compare results from diferent TEST!! OMGpls stop acting like a pro while You are greeny!! 1st memory may be different, 2nd Mainboard (chipset, bios version ect...) This can make whole of a diference!! I have tested on Asus board with Nforrce 780 DDR2 800MHz Geil and newest bios...HAve You ever though about that profesor ATI? Theres 16X AA and that can swalow a lot of fps it took 15+!! And You must be sick when You write 7-10 FPS!! You cant predict it because it depends on RESOLUTION and different cards act differetn...Jesus get some knowledge...And I got 58 they got 51 same settings that makes about 12% which is too much for only mobo factor here... Besides that the cards may be different... But that isnt important You know better...PLs learn something about reviewing hardware! In the test You gave they had Q9400 which is very fast and had same memory I had unfortunately they didnt provide info about mobo but as far as You also had better score I think they messed up something. You just confirmed what i wrote , they lowered scores - You are getting desperated while not having any arguments are You?!!

http://review.zdnet.com/graphics-car...-32902548.html

47, they had 42 again to much of diference...

Anyway i wont argue with someone who thinks that PC is CPU + GPU only...

Ill get back with 4870 whenever i get it to test...not earlier

Ill get back to main topic some new review watch and pls tell me that nvidia has fake drivers that 3870 will be better in DX10.1 and whatever You want This review shows it all and your fanboyism wont help here...

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151&p=6

PS i never LIE in my texts so you better count Your words

saikamaldoss · May 22nd, 2008, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by omagic

Hahaha PLS do not compare results from diferent TEST!! OMGpls stop acting like a pro while You are greeny!! 1st memory may be different, 2nd Mainboard (chipset, bios version ect...) This can make whole of a diference!! I have tested on Asus board with Nforrce 780 DDR2 800MHz Geil and newest bios...HAve You ever though about that profesor ATI? Theres 16X AA and that can swalow a lot of fps it took 15+!! And You must be sick when You write 7-10 FPS!! You cant predict it because it depends on RESOLUTION and different cards act differetn...Jesus get some knowledge...And I got 58 they got 51 same settings that makes about 12% which is too much for only mobo factor here... Besides that the cards may be different... But that isnt important You know better...PLs learn something about reviewing hardware! In the test You gave they had Q9400 which is very fast and had same memory I had unfortunately they didnt provide info about mobo but as far as You also had better score I think they messed up something. You just confirmed what i wrote , they lowered scores - You are getting desperated while not having any arguments are You?!!

http://review.zdnet.com/graphics-car...-32902548.html

47, they had 42 again to much of diference...

Anyway i wont argue with someone who thinks that PC is CPU + GPU only...

Ill get back with 4870 whenever i get it to test...not earlier

Ill get back to main topic some new review watch and pls tell me that nvidia has fake drivers that 3870 will be better in DX10.1 and whatever You want This review shows it all and your fanboyism wont help here...

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151&p=6

PS i never LIE in my texts so you better count Your words

Ah.. u need to read it again... i gave 7-10 FPS diff for 4XAA not 16XAA... dont just start singing before the music ends... i understand u dont know what more to say... thas ok... u can be like that.. ones in a while..

So what ever it is... i am still tellin u the same... its not a big deal for ATI to add more rope and TMU & MT/s.. to creat a monster...

But wont make sence to have a V8 when u need fuel efecieancy.........

If ATI wants.. they can Shrink the dye to creat A Quad 3870 with 4times more power and can give a new name.. and u will not know it....

ATI only beleaves in giving good technology to people... and some dum people dont understand that... what a pitty............

But there are some true followers like u to give voice to NVIDIA.. keep up the good work fanboy.........

omagic · May 22nd, 2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by saikamaldoss

Ah.. u need to read it again... i gave 7-10 FPS diff for 4XAA not 16XAA... dont just start singing before the music ends... i understand u dont know what more to say... thas ok... u can be like that.. ones in a while..

So what ever it is... i am still tellin u the same... its not a big deal for ATI to add more rope and TMU & MT/s.. to creat a monster...

But wont make sence to have a V8 when u need fuel efecieancy.........

If ATI wants.. they can Shrink the dye to creat A Quad 3870 with 4times more power and can give a new name.. and u will not know it....

ATI only beleaves in giving good technology to people... and some dum people dont understand that... what a pitty............

But there are some true followers like u to give voice to NVIDIA.. keep up the good work fanboy.........

I got too much too say, like that it was 16xAA on the screens you gave but i noticed earlier before that u cant read...Again whining on nvidia hahahaha youre a real fanboy but you will probably laater say you are fair hahahaha If Ati was producing in my country maybe i would also be a fanboy ;-)

wow ati want to give good technology === HD2900XT cost 2x as 3870 +
You said " Dont talk about 2900 k... for a simple reason... they did not have enough TMU and MT/S other stuff.." 2900 had also 320 streams but it was 80nm and much lower clocks but still 2x more energy eating!! I had to change my PSU because Chieftech 500W wasnt enough!!!!!And i bet you didnt hear the cooling at load? when i heard it it was clear to me that - Ohyeah Ati loves us!!
HD2900XT was suppose to be a hit as Ati said!!!! hit? no...sh*t they also shouted just like you now... i bough it and boy i was stupid...

And maybe it wasnt Ati card huh?? FAnboy!!! LEarn more about PC's because You had no answer for my arguments just slogans as always "ati is the greatest" but no points...typical fanboy bullshhhhh

I have a lot to say but nooe to talk with here like UNIXLORD said "
Never argue with an idiot, they bring you down to their level and beat u with their experience."

IModIntel · May 22nd, 2008, 05:17 PM

This is a very instructive thread

omagic · May 22nd, 2008, 05:45 PM

iM OFF with this one You know... What sense of giving proofs+arguments when all You get back is marketing bullshhh and abusing a lier:/ well I join many forums to share my knwledge but also to learn something I can use in my work but this thread becomed useless... what shall i write? buy 4870 they say it will be great? sick... No more of this topic untill i get 4870 to my office ;-) ... Probably some fanboys will call me lier unless ill clap for new Ati card well I surely will if it will deserve for that ;-) I guess all forums have such people that are deaf for arguments I just decided not t argue with them anymore... I just hope none of normal customers will listen to their empty 0-knowledge and skill talk... As for last word for 4870 I will admit its good card if it beats GF9800GTX by more than 15%. I promise!