GTA IV, horrible fps

bigal · October 31st, 2009, 02:18 AM

This is really strange, GTA IV performs the same (10-25 frames) no matter what I do, I tried to lower the settings to low on everything on 720p, from the original that I had(1080p) on medium texture, 20 view distance( for the rest of those the same), and the rest high. I am running:
Nothing overclocked
Vista home premium 64-bit
video card: 4870 512mb
cpu: E5200 @2.5ghz 800 fsb
Memory: 4 gigs of memory, 800 bus, 2x2 gb
Motherboard: stock motherboard from gateway dx computer
Power supply: LSP 550 watts
Hard drive: 640 gb, 7200rpm, 16mb cache, western digital.
I applied all of the patches, what is going on

Zamoldac · October 31st, 2009, 02:25 AM

Your cpu is holding you back i played the game on my e5200 (@ 3.6 ghz) and it was pretty smooth try getting your cpu to at least 3.3ghz then try running the game again.

bigal · October 31st, 2009, 02:42 AM

This game just started to act weird overnight, it worked much better yesterday. I think it is something else besides the cpu, even though it is not that good for this game. Boosting the speed of my cpu will help though, since this game is a resource hog, especially with the cpu.

nav.sparx · October 31st, 2009, 04:01 AM

This game requires atleast a quad to run without any lag. I would recommend upgrading your cpu.

bigal · October 31st, 2009, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nav.sparx

This game requires atleast a quad to run without any lag. I would recommend upgrading your cpu.

It is running slightly better now, I repaired the game in "uninstall a program" and reapplied the patches, only worked for an extra 5 frames

I still want to do something about it (Overclock my cpu) for now, later I will get a quad core.
Can I atleast overclock my cpu, even though there are no settings for that in the bios. Is there any safe way of doing that, any programs, anything.

Will I have to get a new motherboard???

mkey · October 31st, 2009, 11:42 AM

Have you maybe changed GPU drivers recently? Or installed anything new?

archwarrior · October 31st, 2009, 09:15 PM

Hi Considering your spec you should be able to enjoy GTA at mainly high settings, with textures & other settings set to medium, the problem is more the game than with your hardware, you need to use the commandline tweak option, to do this you need to goto your GTA4 Directory and create a new txt file called "commandline" then copy these codes I have listed below.

-nomemrestrict
-norestrictions
-novblank

close the txt file and click save.

now when you return to GTA4 you will notice that you are able to set and choose the settings without the lock-outs due to insuffient memory etc, set the textures to medium, I would set rest to medium with some high.

try disabling some windows sevices or at least setting to manual, google a windows vista services tweak guide.

you could try downloading some modded ATI drivers. or google some GTA4 tweak guides, they are quite a few.

It may be more a drive issue footprint that is causing the problem try using driver cleaner to make sure all references to any previous ATI drivers & registry settings are removed, then install new ones.

There are a number of problems it could be, personally I think that Its not a lack of powerful hardware but a setting within windows or in game that is causing the major lag, your setup is fine.

good luck and all the best, it can take time to tweak GTA4 but believe me when everything is working good its worth it, I recently completed it, also try downloading a few GTA4 mods my most reccomended is the Enviroment Mod v3 its a massive 6GB but once you apply it you will notice the diffference, but make sure you are familiar with GTA4 commandline tweaks before using this and any other GTA4 mod.

Good Luck.

Sazabizc · October 31st, 2009, 09:30 PM

bigal I don't know if you can OC you Cpu wasn't it a gateway? If so then you wont be-able to en lest gateway changed the last time I had one. You might be able to use clock gen http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=189 but every time I tried on my old gateway it lock up.

bigal · November 1st, 2009, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archwarrior

Hi Considering your spec you should be able to enjoy GTA at mainly high settings, with textures & other settings set to medium, the problem is more the game than with your hardware, you need to use the commandline tweak option, to do this you need to goto your GTA4 Directory and create a new txt file called "commandline" then copy these codes I have listed below.

-nomemrestrict
-norestrictions
-novblank

close the txt file and click save.

now when you return to GTA4 you will notice that you are able to set and choose the settings without the lock-outs due to insuffient memory etc, set the textures to medium, I would set rest to medium with some high.

try disabling some windows sevices or at least setting to manual, google a windows vista services tweak guide.

you could try downloading some modded ATI drivers. or google some GTA4 tweak guides, they are quite a few.

It may be more a drive issue footprint that is causing the problem try using driver cleaner to make sure all references to any previous ATI drivers & registry settings are removed, then install new ones.

There are a number of problems it could be, personally I think that Its not a lack of powerful hardware but a setting within windows or in game that is causing the major lag, your setup is fine.

good luck and all the best, it can take time to tweak GTA4 but believe me when everything is working good its worth it, I recently completed it, also try downloading a few GTA4 mods my most reccomended is the Enviroment Mod v3 its a massive 6GB but once you apply it you will notice the diffference, but make sure you are familiar with GTA4 commandline tweaks before using this and any other GTA4 mod.

Good Luck.

The only problem that I have is finding the GTA 4 environment v3 mod, all of them are not even near 6gb.

bigal · November 1st, 2009, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sazabizc

bigal I don't know if you can OC you Cpu wasn't it a gateway? If so then you wont be-able to en lest gateway changed the last time I had one. You might be able to use clock gen http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=189 but every time I tried on my old gateway it lock up.

Shit, doesn't work, won't let me overclock.