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Old 28 July 2007, 14:07   #1
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I thought this would be a good place to post my thoughts on violent crimes in today's world. I have my own thoughts on why things have changed so radically for the worse in my particular part of town so here goes. What really messes me up though is the violence involved in the streets today. In my day the drug trade was controlled by the motorcycle gangs, not a bunch of kids running around shooting people over $100 crack debts. This is what has driven me to write about this.

As a 45 year old male I have seen many things during my years on this planet, but nothing that compares to the streets today. It seems that at least one person in every crowd is now packing a 9mm or some form of handgun. Not only is that a fast track to prison but a quick way to ruin what may have been a promising life for the one that gets their ass capped.

I smoked weed for the first time in grade 6 and unfortunately ventured on to experiment with the majority of different substances available to me. Lucky for me it never went beyond the point of no return and I managed to carry on a somewhat normal life for the most part. During my years of experimenting I saw pretty much everything imaginable. Thankfully my fear of needles kept me from going down that road or who knows if I would even be here to write this.

Those that know me are aware that I work for a community centre in a low income part of town that is infested with Crack addiction. Every day the cops go racing past here with sirens blasting and are often then followed by an ambulance. In the 3 years that I have worked here in the hood there have been several murders including one gentleman that I had become very good friends with but for what!!!!!! This person in question was whacked over the head from behind with a shovel first and then tasered by the police because he was trying to get into the neighbours house to call an ambulance.

In our day as I said the Bikers ran things but people were not being killed off in record numbers. Actually there was hardly ever any major violent crimes tied to the drug trade though all the drugs available today were also available then. I have to say my feelings are mixed. When the bikers ruled; their was the intimidation factor.

I mean lets face it, who wants some 6' 5" 250lb bearded Harley Davidson driving monster kicking their door in. The thing is at least in those days people could discuss payment options and while they may have taken a lump or two or three at least they had the chance to get their ass out of the situation. Shooting someone was always the last resort. Today with the youth gangs running wild their is no longer any form of reasoning, it's seems like its shoot first; and then if the person survives ask question later.

So my question to you folks is this: Do you think that by forcing the Bikers out of their controlling position has helped clean up the streets or only made the problem worse?
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Old 28 July 2007, 14:16   #2
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Before people start saying that I am in favour of Bikers and organized crime, I am not; but I do feel that there was far less violent crime when the Hells Angels were running the show.
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Old 28 July 2007, 15:08   #3
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I believe the problem with violence today is actually because of governments and corruption. First of all, parents are not allowed to slap their kids and to teach them between good and evil. In today’s world, you may find yourself in trouble if you will slap your kid. The first problem is with the parental education, and governments are preventing from parents to teach their children.

The second problem is with corruption. In your area, cops don’t give a shit about what’s going on. But in rich area, they would react in a few seconds. Rich people get better treatment from the government and enforcement agencies, because they are rich. Today’s economy and corporation are below red lines. The rich are getting richer while the poor are being ripped off.

These criminals have no education and it’s hard for them to earn money, so they deal with illegal stuff to survive and to eat. I believe they are the victims for the current economy. Look at that bitch Britney Spears, and she makes millions for what? Singing? Dancing? While people have no money to eat. All these corporations are ripping off the market, every asshole is making millions while poor people have nothing to eat.

In today’s world, people without money are pigs for the government. Instead of balance, the governments are ripping the poor and push them into crime. Every congressman is getting bloated paychecks, and every pop star or movie star gets millions. Who do you think is sponsoring these bastards? We do! We pay taxes so Mr. President could buy two private jets. Instead of using this money on good purposes, they are giving bloated paychecks. We pay taxes so these assholes could sit and do nothing.

If the police and the government are ignoring these issues and allow murders in your area, someone has to fucking sue them both. I don’t know about you, but in my area there’s a special court for governmental issues, we call it ‘Bagatsz’ (High Court for Justice), and you can go there and sue the government for their lacks.

The main problem is that most politicians are businessmen, and they applied for these jobs just for the money, not because they CARE. Look at places like Dubai, they have no crime there because the government is fine and the economy is fair and balanced.

So it’s all about money. If you have money then everyone (government, police, etc..) will provide you with a good treatment. If you’re not rich, then they will ignore you. Look at girls for example, they are all looking for rich guys. In today’s world people are being rated by their MONEY, people don’t give a shit if you’re a good guy or not, all they care about is your financial condition

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Old 28 July 2007, 15:25   #4
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I want to get some youth response to this question to see if it helps me understand where they are coming from. I mean I do understand that one needs money to survive and we have to provide for our families whatever way we know how to, but what good is the shooting?

It's awful hard to collect money from a corpse don't ya think?
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Old 28 July 2007, 15:29   #5
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I think you are absolutely right Chaos we are close to the same age and remember what things used to be like here in Canada. Kingston where I live is a city of under 150,000 people and 20 years ago you could walk the streets at midnight safely. Not now the world is a changed place !!

As for bikers well I have a lot of friends who are and they are good people. As for crime well like you said they would really have to screw up big time for them to act with extreme violence or murder .... can't collect money from a corpse and your right.

I would like to see some replies and feedback from younger members of the Forum as well as they will shape the world as we know it in the future.

All my thoughts for now .....
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Old 28 July 2007, 16:40   #7
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I think you are absolutely right Chaos we are close to the same age and remember what things used to be like here in Canada. Kingston where I live is a city of under 150,000 people and 20 years ago you could walk the streets at midnight safely. Not now the world is a changed place !!
Here in this hood I wouldnt feel safe any time after the sun goes down. Yeah we used to be able to roam the streets day or night without issue

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As for bikers well I have a lot of friends who are and they are good people. As for crime well like you said they would really have to screw up big time for them to act with extreme violence or murder .... can't collect money from a corpse and your right.
Yeah I know a few Angels and they always adhered to some sort of code of ethics, I mean you really had to screw up bigtime or get caught doing one of their ladies, which would be utter stupidity IMO. But the latter was a quick way to develop multiple contusions
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Old 28 July 2007, 17:54   #8
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Im so fotunate to have mostly been spared from the wave of violence that is rushing trought the major cities worldwide (i live in a small town with about 3500 residens) But for the past 3 years things have changed, drug related breakins and violence count now for 80% of the crimestat in our small county, drug addicts are 10 times wore then alcoholics cause drugs cost way more than booze and the social support they get can hardly cover 1/3 of their abuse, so to get drugs they break into medical facilities or stores to get money or drugs to support their habbits. They are slo very violent and have mental problems due to the drugs they use.
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Old 29 July 2007, 05:40   #9
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Hey,

Some of you wanted some answers form the younger members of this forum. I just turned 16 and I have got to be agreeing with all that was said previously.

What Regeneration said about the governement 'not letting' parents educate their children properly is right I think. They don't people my age's parentd to get aggresive and teach them things the hard way. My dad has raised me the other way, showed me GOOD MANNER and tought me things the hard way.

Many of the people I know have parents that don't support them s**t amd then they do stuff that will later ruin their lives simply because their parents did not make them aware that whatsoever thing was bad.

I have sympathy for the poor that are suffering their asses off because the cause of their poverty isn't their fault. When I went to New York City for the first time, I was walking on Wall Street when I saw a black man who had like 8 teeth missing, glasses with only a lens on one side, anyways real poor and fucked up. And the worst is that he was on one of the most commercially rich and active sectors of the world. Yet businessmen kept walking by him to get to their shiny black 250 000$ Mercedes-Benz and ignoring this guy. I had 250$ cash in US money and also a little bit of Canadian money and I gave 50$ to him straight up. IT was like as if Jesus had made a revelation to him or something. And its wierd isn't it, but im not a hotshot businessman, im a normal 16 year old kid from Canada (Quebec)

I have sympathy for those who get into crime because their parents didn't give a fuck. But I don't have any sympathy for those who get into crime because they ignored theur parents' advices because he though they were shitheads or something.

The education my parents have given me has served me well so far I think. I've never been drunk (but ive had alcohol before) when people my age are often getting drunk at parties and even in their own parents' house. I've never taken any form whatsoever of drugs (except coffee) when people are getting stoned out of their heads as young as 12 yrs old. It'S true when it was more organized bikers gangs that were ruling, like regenration said they didn't kill people for a 5$ debt, and they sold shit to adults, not kids that were still in elementary school.
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Old 29 July 2007, 14:43   #10
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it sounds as though your parents have done a great job in your case. Make them proud and continue to make smart choices. Many of my friends ask me why I work where I do since the $ is not great by any means and the only reason I have to tell them is, if I can help one of these youth make smarter choices then I made then it's all good.
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